Is this the beginning of gyno?

**itraylor** · 09-27-2008, 10:09 PM

I have read plenty on the boards but just want some firsthand advice. I am about to start week 4 of a 10 week cycle of 125mg Sust EOD. I noticed about a couple of days ago that my nipples are a little sore/tender. The feeling is actually very faint and I sometimes think that I am imagining this but I am pretty sure it is estrogen related sides.

I currently have Nolva, Proviron and Clomid on hand. I have read that Nolva is not good on cycle so I was thinking of taking the Proviron to control the symptoms a bit. I am actually about to order some A-dex, I don’t think it’s too late and if it is then I will just save it for my next cycle which is already on hand (Test E, I don’t like the frequent injections).

So is taking the Proviron a good idea to reduce the estrogenic sides? Is the Nolva a definite no-go? Should I just wait for the A-dex (it will take 3-4 weeks and may be too late by then)? This is my first planned cycle where I have actually read up, understand what I am doing, and have a PCT lined up so I was not aware if I was gyno sensitive or not; this may be normal too, I just would rather be safe than have a lump in my chesticle and develop bitch tits. Thanks for any advice.

Ian

**QuadPower** · 09-27-2008, 10:12 PM

Sounds like something is up, anything out of the ordinary (like tingling) is a sign of gyno starting up.

Question, why aren't you running an AI with your cycle already? What is your bf%?

**itraylor** · 09-27-2008, 10:23 PM

I just didn’t anticipate it happening since it is a basic cycle. Like I mentioned, I was not sure if I was prone to gyno. I have enough Proviron on hand for a PCT on both this cycle and my next planned cycle (80 25mg tabs). Should I just begin taking 25mg a day to combat it? In the meantime I can order the A-dex.

I am 6’ 185 pounds, and 28 years old. Body fat is in the 11-14% range, not sure how accurate my scale is though. I can measure myself at night before I go to bed and it will say 11.7% and upon waking it could say 14.8%. I doubt I am gaining 3% body fat through the night. It was a little higher but I just finished a 2 week cycle of Clen to cut a little more before starting this cycle. Thanks.

Ian

**itraylor** · 09-28-2008, 03:19 AM

Well I will begin taking 25mg Proviron ED and order the Letrozole tomorrow, it may take 3 weeks or so to come in. I will then begin the reversal process, I dont think the gyno is to far along now and hopefully with the addition of Proviron it will not advance any. Does this sound like it will work? Thanks.

Ian

**Roshambo** · 09-28-2008, 06:08 AM

This is an Excerpt I found a while ago it may help with your questions.

Three days into the cycle, my nipples began to itch: onset of Gynomastia. Dump enough testosterone into your body and your system counters by upping its oestrogen output, which leads to a build-up of breast tissue. After long-term use, it can get so bad that some users require surgical breast reductions. I woke up on the morning of day four and nearly had a heart attack at the sight of myself in the mirror. My nipples were the size of milk bottle tops, stretched smooth as the skin of a balloon. The skin had formed into swollen pouches that looked like the rubberised nipples on a baby's bottle. I appeared to have breasts. Pendulous, malformed breasts.

Or was I just chubby and still out of shape? I didn't know. I gave them a jiggle. I couldn't tell if it was fluid build-up or actual flesh. Could a person grow new flesh overnight? I didn't want tits - it went against the purpose of the exercise. I gobbled twice my daily allotment of anti-oestrogen medication. A week's worth of double Nolvadex doses got the gyno under control.

The original message is here along with the entire story.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandsty...eing.features1

**itraylor** · 09-28-2008, 07:24 AM

Well thank goodness my nipples are not that bad! I just have the faint tingle/itch and am unfortunately reacting instead of being prepared. I wish I would have gotten some A-dex/Letro, just didn’t think with such a mild cycle that it would be an issue. I am starting to take 25mg Proviron /ED and then I will reverse the gyno when my Letro arrives in a few weeks. Thanks for the tips.