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    gear without the hair loss

    my hair is already thinning at a slow pace. Im afraid that the cyp cycle i was about to go on will just completely demolish the hair on the top of my head.

    do you guys think an oral steroid like var would be a good option for me? I realize it is hard to bulk with var. does it even stand in the same league as a cyp/dbol cycle in terms of gains. I understand the gains you get with var tend to be retained. any suggestions you guys might have on alternatives would be appreciated.

    I checked out var on the banner site.. doesn't seem crazily expensive

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    var would be ok.

    but not the var in the banner as that is a crap herbal supp and will do nothing for you.

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    have you reserched clen ? Or equipoise ? I wish I had my computer and not my phone cuz I could show you some links. Anyways good luck.

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    is it hard to gain 15 pounds when on var?

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    Bro,if you're predisposed to baldness you will lose it no matter what you do...of course anabolic compounds will speed up process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmax View Post
    Bro,if you're predisposed to baldness you will lose it no matter what you do...of course anabolic compounds will speed up process.
    i understand that but, i am 25, prime time of my life... i still look good with the thin hair on top cause i shave the sides(which are thick). id kind of like to keep my hair as long as I can.

    I read that equipoise shouldn't be taken alone on its profile. do you think this is a good option for me? or would you say that doing the cyp-dbol cycle wont make me completely bald in 3 years?

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    even if i can have this hair for 3 or so years.... i'll get hair transplant surgery once i get my degree(may) and get a real job

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    Var is not in the same league with those two regarding weight/muscle gain, but as indicated would certainly be safest given your situation and concerns. And as you deduced and Godsend seconded, the banner is not actual Var.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kchrist View Post
    even if i can have this hair for 3 or so years.... i'll get hair transplant surgery once i get my degree(may) and get a real job
    I feel you on that. You need to understand var is still a DHT derivative and for SOME can lead to pretty serious hairloss. If I were you...I would try a low dose of tbol or nothing at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kchrist View Post
    i understand that but, i am 25, prime time of my life... i still look good with the thin hair on top cause i shave the sides(which are thick). id kind of like to keep my hair as long as I can.

    I read that equipoise shouldn't be taken alone on its profile. do you think this is a good option for me? or would you say that doing the cyp-dbol cycle wont make me completely bald in 3 years?
    There have been some guys that say dbol literally made thier fall out instantly...so id be careful with that..Eq is a great compound for lean mass bro..

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    just don't do gear man. You'd look great just from a straight diet and smart training. You wouldn't gain much from needles or pills without that anyway. No matter how big or ripped you are, chix will choose the guy with nice hair, bottom line, so I think you should fix your priorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RapaciousShark View Post
    chix will choose the guy with nice hair, bottom line, so I think you should fix your priorities.
    are you kidding me?

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    juice it up and prove me wrong

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    i have a skin head and pull tons of chicks.

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    i think a lot of it has to do with having game.... looking good... and money helps. im going to go bald anyway

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    see, clicking the word bald just showed me how to get past this. life is so easy

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    well confidence is huge, so if it doesn't bother you then why not do a legit cycle?

    I didnt say bald guys dont get laid. All I'm saying is that most women, meaning no fewer than 90% in our peer group, want the pretty boy with sexy hair. AND they want him to have a perfect body. And they want him to have money. AND etc etc etc. Chix are greedy these days, and losing your hair is going to hurt your game.

    bottom line: as long as you're not beat and you're in shape, the hair counts for way more than the meat.

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    think of a bald chick with a great body...

    to be fair, it's not the same thing, but the analogy can prove a point

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    wk1-12 250mg cyp 2xwk.
    wk1-4 dbol 25mg ED.
    wk14-18 Nolva: 20/20/20/20 ED
    Clomid: 50/50/25/25 ED

    you dont think this a a legit first cycle? and to answer your question about a hot bald chick... i think i just got a semi

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    would a shorter cycle with different kind of test decrease the chance for hairloss? are there any other 'boosters' than dbol that dont cause hairloss quite as much?

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    hair is over rated, I proudly shave my big head every two nights. I wish there was a magic cream you rub on your scalp and boom no more shaving. If hairloss is already affecting you then personally I would stay away, and do as the others say and eat better and train harder. Alot can be achieved with proper diet and training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kchrist View Post
    even if i can have this hair for 3 or so years.... i'll get hair transplant surgery once i get my degree(may) and get a real job
    Getting a transplant while still having hair on your head is a good way to do it (hides a lot of the scabs/scarring). You should probably be more proactive with your mpb and look into finasteride. Something to think about, best of luck!

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    its funny you say that... because this is the cycle im going to end up doing

    wk1-12 250mg CYP 2x wk.
    wk1-14 Adex @ .25mgs EOD
    wk14-18 Nolva: 20/20/20/20 ED
    Clomid: 50/50/25/25 ED
    wk1-18 Proscar ED

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    hey man i was in the same boat. i ran a test, winny and eq cycle and the winny scalped me. my cycles since then have included, tbol, test, var, npp, eq all with finasteride and i have not had a problem at all. however i shave my head now so it doesnt look as bad but when i was on winny the shit was just falling out from everywhere.

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    i dont really know how to take that but thanks man...

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    Can't Finasteride and Dutastride inhibit gains during cycle?
    Is it better during PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmax View Post
    Bro,if you're predisposed to baldness you will lose it no matter what you do...of course anabolic compounds will speed up process.
    +2, nothing you can really do.

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