This a good second cycle?

**itraylor** · 10-01-2008, 10:56 AM

I wanted to get some opinions on this as a second cycle. I am 28, 6’0”, 185 pounds and 11-14% body fat (scale acts weird, I get 3% variances in the same day between morning and afternoon). I am currently doing my first planned cycle and am on week 4 of 16 weeks (including the PCT). Things are going smoothly, though I must admit that I am learning more daily about how my body reacts to things. There are some things that I would change and I am hoping to refine my second cycle to a point where I am not experiencing any sides. Here is the cycle:

Week 1: Letrozole 0.625mg/day
Week 2: Letrozole 0.625mg/day
Week 3: Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/wk (250mg/M-Th); Letrozole 0.625mg/day
Week 4: Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/ wk (250mg/M-Th); Letrozole 0.625mg/day
Week 5: Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/ wk (250mg/M-Th); Letrozole 0.625mg/day
Week 5: Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/ wk (250mg/M-Th); Letrozole 0.625mg/day
Week 7: Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/ wk (250mg/M-Th); Letrozole 0.625mg/day
Week 8: Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/ wk (250mg/M-Th); Letrozole 0.625mg/day
Week 9: Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/ wk (250mg/M-Th); Letrozole 0.625mg/day
Week 10: Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/ wk (250mg/M-Th); Letrozole 0.625mg/day
Week 11: Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/ wk (250mg/M-Th); Letrozole 0.625mg/day
Week 12: Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/ wk (250mg/M-Th); Letrozole 0.625mg/day

Post Cycle:
Week 13: HCG 500 IU/2xwk; Letrozole 0.625mg/day
Week 14: HCG 500 IU/2xwk; Letrozole 0.625mg/day
Week 15: HCG 500 IU/2xwk; Proviron 25mg/day; Nolvadex 20mg/day; Clomid 50mg/day
Week 16: HCG 500 IU/2xwk; Proviron 25mg/day; Nolvadex 20mg/day; Clomid 50mg/day
Week 17: Proviron 25mg/day; Nolvadex 20 mg/day; Clomid 50mg/day
Week 18: Proviron 25mg/day; Nolvadex 20 mg/day; Clomid 50mg/day

I don’t know if this is too much Letro but the tabs I have on order are 2.5mg so I figured breaking them into quarters would be easiest. On my current cycle I experienced some soreness in my nipples about a week ago and I want to prevent that this time. I began taking 25mg of Proviron daily to halt the affects and when I get the Letro I hope to reverse it completely. Any opinions on this would be appreciated. Thanks.

**DS21** · 10-01-2008, 11:04 AM

That is a lot of letro, imo. I would run that dose eod, letro is strong. I'm not sure, but are you going to run gyno reversal before this cycle? If so, I would try and get arimidex as your ai during cycle, it is a test only cycle.

**itraylor** · 10-01-2008, 11:13 AM

I could easily do the Letro EOD. I read that it is good to get the Letro built up in your system for 2 weeks before you begin the cycle. If I had to choose an AI to run during the cycle I would probably prefer Proviron but I though Letro would do the job well enough without hindering gains.

The cycle I am on now is Sust 250, 125mg EOD and like I said, I am in week 4 and I noticed some nipple soreness a week ago. I didnt think I would have any adverse affects on such a mild cycle. Just goes to show that it does not matter how much you read sometimes, you have to experience to learn because I was not planning on running an AI during this cycle until later.

**LATS60** · 10-01-2008, 11:15 AM

I'm lost. Your 4wks into your 1st cycle and you want to know if your next cycle is good??????

**itraylor** · 10-01-2008, 11:22 AM

Well I want to know if I am on the right track so that I can start getting the stuff. It usually takes weeks for my orders to come in so by the time I get it all I will nearly be done with my first cycle. After a few months off I want to ensure I have all of the stuff for a solid second cycle. Is planning a bad thing now?

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 12:25 PM

1) Thats WAY too much Letro. .25mgs is enough per day. Or .5mgs EOD.

2) Letro is a HORRIBLE choice for PCT...

Have you done any research on it at all?

**DS21** · 10-01-2008, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by itraylor

I could easily do the Letro EOD. I read that it is good to get the Letro built up in your system for 2 weeks before you begin the cycle. If I had to choose an AI to run during the cycle I would probably prefer Proviron but I though Letro would do the job well enough without hindering gains.

The cycle I am on now is Sust 250, 125mg EOD and like I said, I am in week 4 and I noticed some nipple soreness a week ago. I didnt think I would have any adverse affects on such a mild cycle. Just goes to show that it does not matter how much you read sometimes, you have to experience to learn because I was not planning on running an AI during this cycle until later.

Are you asking if you should start using letro now? If your nipples are sore I would start asap, and probably start using the dose you had ed untill it goes away (the soreness) then go to eod. On a test only cycle proviron should be a strong enough ai, imo.

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 01:27 PM

OK!!! now i got it...

Youre doing your first cycle now right?

And youre asking about your second...

Dude... Slow down, take some ritalin, and breath...

You have people confused as shit...

**DS21** · 10-01-2008, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

OK!!! now i got it...

Youre doing your first cycle now right?

And youre asking about your second...

Dude... Slow down, take some ritalin, and breath...

You have people confused as shit...

So true.

**itraylor** · 10-01-2008, 07:06 PM

Thanks for the advice. Sorry, I didn’t mean to confuse anyone, it just will take weeks to get all my stuff together so I have to plan the second cycle a little further out. That’s why I am asking about it now. The only reason I included that I am on a cycle now is because I knew folks would ask about my cycle experience. Thanks though…

**Big** · 10-01-2008, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by itraylor

Thanks for the advice. Sorry, I didn’t mean to confuse anyone, it just will wake weeks to get all my stuff together so I have to plan the second cycle a little further out. That’s why I am asking about it now. The only reason I included that I am on a cycle now is because I knew folks would ask about my cycle experience. Thanks though…

so how long do you think it will be from right now, until the day you start your second cycle?

**itraylor** · 10-01-2008, 08:35 PM

Well I have 12 weeks left on this cycle, to include the PCT. I will take close to 4 months off, so all in all roughly 7 months. The issue is getting the gear stocked up and ready to go. I am currently overseas (Iraq) so I have to order things piecemeal so that it does not get seized by the state department, etc. I plan on ordering several small packages between now and when I begin. Considering it takes 4-6 weeks for things to arrive out here and I will likely have to place 3-5 orders I don’t think me planning it so far out is a bad thing.