First time gyno .What to do ?

**lomax222** · 10-01-2008, 02:02 PM

Hi guys ,this is a question I'd like to ask on behalf of a friend (seriously) .His English isn't too good ,this is why I'm posting for him .

Age :33
Height :5'9"
Weight :215lbs
Yrs training :17

Current cycle :

-Deca 400mg /Week ----week 1-8

-Sustanon 750mg to 1000mg /week ----week 1-16

-Tren E 600mg / week ----week 9- 16

-Nolvadex 20mg /day during the whole cycle

-Proviron 50mg / day starting on week 9

Ok here is my question :he started this cycle 6 weeks ago and after 2 weeks into it ,he got gyno (small lump under the nipple especially the left one but it doesn't itch) .He wants to get his hand on letro but it might take a few weeks to get some .
Here are a few things to know about him :he usually doesn't do any pct ,he only takes nolva and proviron during the whole cycle .His previous cycle was 2,5 months before this one .
He'd like to know what you suggest .Is there any point in taking more nolva before he can get some letro ?
I hear if it's gyno from deca ,nolva won't do a thing .This is only the 2nd time he does deca .He took some at 200mg years ago and didn't get any reaction from it .
What do you guys think he should do ?
Thanks for your help !

**bbminded** · 10-01-2008, 02:08 PM

get some letro from this boards sponsor. you can get it overnighted if you want. that should def work. its kinda weird that it doesnt itch him. did he say it hurts when he touches it?? i doubt its from the deca but if it is getting some caber would also help.

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 02:12 PM

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Lets see...

1) You are using Test at a unnesessary does
2) You are doing 2 19-Nors at the same time.
3) You are running both ar incorrect lengths. They can be run together if done correctly which you are NOT doing.
4) You are taking Nolva on cycle.
5) TAKING NOLVA WHILE USING DECA ! OR TREN ! IS HORRIBLE!
6) YOU ARE DOING BOTH!!!!!

Now, whats your question?

PT · 10-01-2008, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

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Lets see...

1) You are using Test at a unnesessary does
2) You are doing 2 19-Nors at the same time.
3) You are running both ar incorrect lengths. They can be run together if done correctly which you are NOT doing.
4) You are taking Nolva on cycle.
5) TAKING NOLVA WHILE USING DECA ! OR TREN ! IS HORRIBLE!
6) YOU ARE DOING BOTH!!!!!

Now, whats your question?

the 2 19nors are run at different times. try letro and maybe get some caber

**lomax222** · 10-01-2008, 02:16 PM

In the meantime ,

Should he stop the deca ?
Should he stop the Tren ?
Or the Nolva ?
He won't get letro from this board ,he doesn't want to order online and it would take too long anyway .

**lomax222** · 10-01-2008, 02:16 PM

BTW ,he's taking tren after deca ,not at the same time .

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by PT

the 2 19nors are run at different times. try letro and maybe get some caber

i missed that.... Sorry... --> Me

<-- you guys...

But nonetheless, Tren E at the end like that is kinda pointless no?

Stop the Nolva ASAP! Thats no doubt causing sides.

Get some Letro ASAP like PT said...

**lomax222** · 10-01-2008, 02:23 PM

Ok thanks .
He can keep the proviron and the deca then ?Shouldn't he reduce the dosage for deca at least ?

**DS21** · 10-01-2008, 02:27 PM

He is only usnig 400mg wk so I would say he is fine. Start the proviron drop the nolva and get letro like stated, he should be fine.

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 02:27 PM

No the Deca dose seems fine...

Its the Test dose thats atrocious...

1000mgs a week? Why would you take that much for 16 weeks?

btw, id drop the Tren as well... Running it for 7 weeks seems like a waste..

And not to mention he already has sides, and you did say he doesnt do PCT?

His natrual levels must be the in the toliet...

**lomax222** · 10-01-2008, 02:35 PM

Thank you guys .
Just wondering ,why is the tren a waste ?It should be run for longer ?

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 02:46 PM

It says Tren E in the original post...

Ace is fine to run for 7 weeks... E is a waste...

**lomax222** · 10-01-2008, 02:52 PM

Ok ,thanks !

**Deltasaurus** · 10-01-2008, 03:21 PM

let us know how his gyno turns out

**redz** · 10-01-2008, 03:34 PM

1) You are using Test at a unnesessary does
2) You are doing 2 19-Nors at the same time.
3) You are running both ar incorrect lengths. They can be run together if done correctly which you are NOT doing.
4) You are taking Nolva on cycle.
5) TAKING NOLVA WHILE USING DECA ! OR TREN ! IS HORRIBLE!
6) YOU ARE DOING BOTH!!!!!

That about sums it up!

Letro will be the cure!

**QuadPower** · 10-01-2008, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by lomax222

His previous cycle was 2,5 months before this one .
Thanks for your help !

Is it previous cycle was 2.5 months before this?

OR

Is it previous cycle was #2, which was 5 months before this one?

I'm a noob but even I know the former is terrible