To drink or not to drink

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 04:00 PM

right am planing on starting a prop/tren /winny cycle that looks like this.

weeks 1-10 100mgs test p ed

weeks 1-10 75mgs tren a ed

week 4-10 ? winny ed

now my question is i am not too keen on all the pinning but after reading up on short esters i have come up with that cycle,so i was thinking i could drink the winny at 75-100mgs ed rather than shooting it at 50mgs ed.

i know people say shooting winny is better than drinking it so i thought upping the dose to 75-100mgs ed would make it just as good .

will it or am i wrong?

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 04:02 PM

Whats the big deal if youre already pinning ED?

btw, i would stop Tren use 2 weeks prior to Test.

**Reed** · 10-01-2008, 04:05 PM

Why not just get tabs?????

If you are stuck on the drinking it remember the half life will be shorter (9hrs) due to this so split the dose and take twice a day

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Whats the big deal if youre already pinning ED?

btw, i would stop Tren use 2 weeks prior to Test.

i started winny on my last cycle and the pain was not nice at all.

just thought i could save myself from pain a scar tissue .

thought i would be ok running tren upto week 10 with it being a short ester.

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Reed500

Why not just get tabs?????

If you are stuck on the drinking it remember the half life will be shorter (9hrs) due to this so split the dose and take twice a day

already got 100ml of winny

**Reed** · 10-01-2008, 04:07 PM

Well do it as I suggested. Thats the way to do it

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 04:09 PM

I agree with Reed...

And you are fine with taking it for 10 weeks, it just makes recovery a little easier stopping Tren before stopping Test.

JMO... Youll be fine i suppose.

How is your PCT?

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 04:11 PM

not sure on pct yet but i have

clomid

nolva

adex

prov

letro

viagra

cill

any help would be great

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 04:14 PM

Whenever i use Tren i get HCG ...

Not needed but nice to have...

At the very least run an AI during PCT.

I do this...

Nolva 20/20/20/20
Clomid (optional if you use a AI.) 25/25/25/25
Proviron 50/50/50/50

HCG 500IU's 2xW for the last two weeks of the cycle, and two weeks into PCT.

Id keep Letro on hand during cycle in case of sides...

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 04:17 PM

ill use the ai and go with nolva and proviron .

not too keen on clomid.

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 04:19 PM

Most people arent, too many sides at ridiculously high doses...

At 50 or 25mgs, you should get any...

But nolva and Pro is a good PCT...

Can you get HCG ?

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 04:25 PM

yes hcg is not a problem .

i ran hcg on my last 14 weeks cycle from weeks 6-11 @ 500ius every 3rd day .

i was told to run the hcg mid-end cycle and not in pct.

ok here it is

weeks 1-10 100mgs test p ed

weeks 1-10 75mgs tren a ed

week 4-10 75mgs winny ed split into x3 25mgs doses ed

weeks 4-8 500ius hcg e3rd

letro on hand

pct

adex .5/.5/.5/.5

Nolva 20/20/20/20

Proviron 50/50/50/50

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 04:27 PM

People opinions on HCG use are like A-holes, everyone has one...

Ive heard of people doing it that way too...

I prefer my way, but not a big deal with doing it during cycle...

No adex in PCT bro...

Adex and Nolva reduce each others effectivness, and besides, you already have an AI in your PCT.

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 04:29 PM

got it thanks alot for your time .

**redz** · 10-01-2008, 04:30 PM

Drink the winny, the injects are very painful with most ugl gear.

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by redz

Drink the winny, the injects are very painful with most ugl gear.

will do.

zambons are painfull too

**HORSE~** · 10-01-2008, 05:06 PM

I can make painless winny at 50 to 60 mg/ml injectable but I still prefer to take it orally....

Also you don't lose near as much as what most people state when taken orally....If you take 75 mg per day orally you would be getting well over 50 mg's per day....If I was forced to guess I would think that you may lose around 5-10% tops when taken orally as the alpha-alkylate is a far better shield than people give it credit for and I think it would be closer to 5 % then the 10% mark....

So if it where up to me, I would say bottoms up....

**jstraw428** · 10-01-2008, 05:47 PM

Just drink it......Not worth the pain in my opinion.....but if you are going to drink it, look into getting oral winny, so you are not paying high prices for injectable, which you are going to drink anyway....