Cycle Help: Masteron, Tren, EQ

**bigdrew** · 10-02-2008, 08:53 AM

Looking for a little help! I am preparing for a new cycle and want learn, hard, results that I will keep without holding water. Currently 5 foot 11, 195lbs, under 10%bf. Pretty expierenced with cycles.

Not sure what combination of the above is best. I have had amazing results with Tren before and want to try Masteron . Is EQ needed? Will it help? Should i do a different combination of them? I am hesitatant to add too much test, but will probably need a little with this cycle. Any advice is appreicated.

**Freakish** · 10-02-2008, 08:55 AM

bro change up the EQ for prop and you are golden!what doses you looking at?

**redz** · 10-02-2008, 08:58 AM

If you dont want to run too much test just do prop at 50mg ed.

**Dukkit** · 10-02-2008, 09:32 AM

i agree with everyone above me.

no EQ. add prop.

you will love it

**bigdrew** · 10-02-2008, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

i agree with everyone above me.

no EQ. add prop.

you will love it

My only concern then is that i need to do ant-Es and more PCT. 50mg ed?

**Dukkit** · 10-02-2008, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by bigdrew

My only concern then is that i need to do ant-Es and more PCT. 50mg ed?

well... you can do the same PCT.. ( tell us what your PCT is like)

and you wont need anti e's. i never run AI on cycle. plus Masteron acts an AI in some forms.

**bigdrew** · 10-02-2008, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

well... you can do the same PCT.. ( tell us what your PCT is like)

and you wont need anti e's. i never run AI on cycle. plus Masteron acts an AI in some forms.

I use HCG for PCT. My doc actually recommends using it towards the end of ur cycle (around week 6 of 10). Off topic, but how much off time do you take? I usually cycle 2 months on 2 off. Thanks bro!

**Dukkit** · 10-02-2008, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by bigdrew

I use HCG for PCT. My doc actually recommends using it towards the end of ur cycle (around week 6 of 10). Off topic, but how much off time do you take? I usually cycle 2 months on 2 off. Thanks bro!

seems like you need to do some reading on this site

on PCT

on HCG

on on/off time.

Hcg is great for PCT. (but you cant just run HCG for pct. other items are needed) especially Tren cycles. I run HCG for the last 2 weeks of my cycle and first 2 weeks of PCT.

then the rest of my PCT is clomid, nolva and aromisin. and usually caber but thats optional.

Your off time should equal.. Cycle length + pct length.

so if you do an 8 week cycle. then a 4 week pct. you should take the next 12 weeks off after pct is done before starting another cycle

**redz** · 10-02-2008, 09:56 AM

HCG alone is not a pct.

**Dukkit** · 10-02-2008, 09:57 AM

go to the Post Cycle Therapy Section on this board and read the stickies.

**bigdrew** · 10-02-2008, 09:59 AM

I base my PCT on what my doc at the clinic recommends. I do use some anti-e while on PCT. More info is always better though! Off time, i do follow that rule, but man the off time sucks!

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

seems like you need to do some reading on this site

on PCT

on HCG

on on/off time.

Hcg is great for PCT. especially Tren cycles. I run HCG for the last 2 weeks of my cycle and first 2 weeks of PCT.

then the rest of my PCT is clomid, nolva and aromisin. and usually caber but thats optional.

Your off time should equal.. Cycle length + pct length.

so if you do an 8 week cycle. then a 4 week pct. you should take the next 12 weeks off after pct is done before starting another cycle

**Dukkit** · 10-02-2008, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by bigdrew

I base my PCT on what my doc at the clinic recommends. I do use some anti-e while on PCT. More info is always better though! Off time, i do follow that rule, but man the off time sucks!

are you on TRT or HRT??

why do you go to a clinic?

**bigdrew** · 10-02-2008, 10:01 AM

Clinic: for trt. did hrt, but now too expensive since cannot compound

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

are you on TRT or HRT??

why do you go to a clinic?

**Dukkit** · 10-02-2008, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by bigdrew

Clinic: for trt. did hrt, but now too expensive since cannot compound

oh man!! you gotta tell us that before you ask for help.
that changes shit! lol

then yea. pct isnt to much of a big deal.

and your already on TEST? what type? TEST CYP?

so run your TRT dose of TEST with tren and mast. thats a killer cycle.

run your HCG like the doc says. but i would do it the last 2 weeks of cycle and the week after you stop

and TRT changes your on/off time too!!

**bigdrew** · 10-02-2008, 10:11 AM

Thanks bro!
Prop, Tren , and Masteron it is!

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

oh man!! you gotta tell us that before you ask for help.
that changes shit! lol

then yea. pct isnt to much of a big deal.

and your already on TEST? what type? TEST CYP?

so run your TRT dose of TEST with tren and mast. thats a killer cycle.

run your HCG like the doc says. but i would do it the last 2 weeks of cycle and the week after you stop

and TRT changes your on/off time too!!

**Dukkit** · 10-02-2008, 10:14 AM

but like i said. i wouldnt bother running an anti E during cycle. keep some letro on hand though in case you start to see sides. but you will get better results without an AI. (unless your prone to gyno)

**bigdrew** · 10-02-2008, 10:19 AM

I have had minor gyno in past and keep letro at hand! I had a lump that went away with letro. I take a minimal dose of it as an anti-e on occasion.

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

but like i said. i wouldnt bother running an anti E during cycle. keep some letro on hand though in case you start to see sides. but you will get better results without an AI. (unless your prone to gyno)