what is the pros of this?

**Banelord** · 10-02-2008, 04:20 PM

I'm on deca now with Test. I know what to expect out of it. But what happen if u add winstrol to the mix, what will happen with this stack..

**"Maximus"** · 10-02-2008, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Banelord

I'm on deca now with Test. I know what to expect out of it. But what happen if u add winstrol to the mix, what will happen with this stack..

Good results... added towards the last 4 or 5 weeks of the cycle and you'll end up looking more muscular, vascular.

Something like this:

(Example, assuming the test at 500mgs too p/wk)
Week 1-10 Deca 300mg
Week 6-10 Winny 50mg EOD

If you don't want to run it EOD, you can do 100mgs ED for 4 weeks... that would be an alternate route too!

PCT should be started 3 weeks after the last Deca shot!

Nolva/Clomid and some proviron to help you get natty levels started!

**redz** · 10-02-2008, 04:44 PM

How are the results so far with deca and test?

**Banelord** · 10-02-2008, 04:51 PM

it has been 1.5 week so far, the deca is kicking in, I can really feel it, The test E will take 4 week, so what I did was frontlond with Test P...At first I thought it was fake, due to the fast ester, nothing was going on, but it in full effect now. It good that all I can say, and it will only get better. The thing is I had done 3 cycle with deca and Test, I just want to try to add something else into the mix to see what I will get out of it. Ya I hear deca test and winny is da bomd!!!!

**god-send** · 10-02-2008, 05:09 PM

deca takes longer than test e to kick.

i doubt your feeling the deca after 1.5 weeks

**god-send** · 10-02-2008, 05:10 PM

unless your useing npp

**"Maximus"** · 10-02-2008, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by god-send

deca takes longer than test e to kick.

i doubt your feeling the deca after 1.5 weeks

No... he frontloaded with Test P, that's why he's feeling something so soon. But yeah, I agree... w/Test E it would take longer like 5 - 7 wks for it to start kicking in along with the deca.

**god-send** · 10-02-2008, 05:15 PM

yes i agree .its not the deca that he is feeling its the test p

**Banelord** · 10-02-2008, 05:21 PM

ok it could be the case, ether way it feel very good.

**Big** · 10-02-2008, 05:48 PM

I personally don't care for winny at all, winny and eq are 2 substances I won't use again. I'm very lean and never need to shed fat, and the joint pain I get from winny affects my training. Everyone is different, but for me the negatives outweigh the positives.

**WARMachine** · 10-02-2008, 08:52 PM

^^ The winny shouldnt be a problem while running Deca at the same time.

Test E and Deca is primarly used as a bulking cycle OP...

But winny can be thrown in if you want to cut up at the end of the cycle.

Good results... added towards the last 4 or 5 weeks of the cycle and you'll end up looking more muscular, vascular.

Something like this:

(Example, assuming the test at 500mgs too p/wk)
Week 1-10 Deca 300mg
Week 6-10 Winny 50mg EOD

If you don't want to run it EOD, you can do 100mgs ED for 4 weeks... that would be an alternate route too!

PCT should be started 3 weeks after the last Deca shot!

Nolva/Clomid and some proviron to help you get natty levels started!

This is good bro ^^^

Lets assume you are running test for 12wks and Deca fo 10...

I would use Winny till week 15 which is when you would begin your PCT.

So something like this...

Test E @250mgs 2xW for 1-12 weeks
Deca @250mgs 2xW for 1-10 weeks
Winny @75mgs ED for weeks 9-15

Then begin a PCT of Nolva/Clomid and Proviron or Aromasin .

**god-send** · 10-02-2008, 08:58 PM

^^^^^^^^

looks nice .

after some thought on running short or long esters i come u with this for a winnter bulker

weeks 1-6 75mgs drol ed

weeks 1-16 600mgs test ew

weeks 1-14 500mgs dec ew

weeks 12-18 75mgs oral winny ed

prov/nolva pct

adex .25mg eod thu cycle

weeks 8-13 500 ius hcg every 3rd day

what ya all think?