the winter bulk

[god-send]

after some thought on running short or long esters i come u with this for a winnter bulker

weeks 1-6 75mgs drol ed

weeks 1-16 600mgs test ew

weeks 1-14 500mgs dec ew

weeks 12-18 75mgs oral winny ed

prov/nolva pct

adex .25mg eod thu cycle

weeks 8-13 500 ius hcg every 3rd day

winny at the end to give me that hard look ,am at 10%

what ya all think?

[rhino1]

just me...id switch the winny to anavar or methyl tren

[WARMachine]

Stats?

age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

Sorry man, not tryin to be a prick, im sure your squared away, you seem quite knowledgeable...

[rhino1]

quit trying to be a prick war!

[WARMachine]

I agree with Rhino btw, Var rules over Winny anyday...


PCT?

[WARMachine]

quit trying to be a prick war!

[rhino1]

I agree with Rhino btw, Var rules over Winny anyday...


PCT?

cant you read PRICK lol...proviron /nolva


id toss in some HCG

[rhino1]

thanks....that was quite prickish

[rhino1]

for a hard look you should add some viagra or cialis

[WARMachine]

cant you read PRICK lol...proviron /nolva


id toss in some HCG

I meant what doses prick-mouth!!!

[god-send]

age -26

hight - 5,9

weight -210lbs

bf-10%

meals -

meal 1- 4 hard boild eggs -100g oats

meal 2-pro drink -lean beef whole meal bread

meal 3- chicken fillet cup brown rice veggies

meal 4-2 tins tuna 1 large sweet patato

meal 5-samon fillet with veggies

meal 6 -lean beef whole meal bread

meal 7 -hand full nuts-pumkin seed-cottage cheese

meal 8 pro shake -peanut butter on whole meal bread


3-5 liters of warter per day with muti vits

basic pct knowlege as am not prone to gyno estro probs

2 cycles under belt

1st sust 500mgs 12 weeks dbol 4 weeks = 20lbs after pct

2nd test e deca drol -500-400-100= 20lbs after pct

was 235 max @ 8-9% bf but stop for 6 months due to bad time with mrs

goal is pure mass while droping 2-4% in bf

think my diet needs fixing alot ut am on it be4 i start cycle

[WARMachine]

The diet is better than like 90% of people who post theirs for the first time...

But i see some areas that could be improved if you want...

[Big]

I would run the drol at 100mg/day for 4 weeks

[WARMachine]

^^^ Agree there... Nice point.

[BG]

I agree with Rhino btw, Var rules over Winny anyday...


PCT?

You have to be kidding me right??????????????

[god-send]

100mgs ed it is .

help with diet would be nice.

[BG]

I would run the drol at 100mg/day for 4 weeks

100 mgs is tough when it comes to pumps, at 100 I couldnt get through a complete workout, pumps were so insane I couldnt flex my arms half way through training. I do agree, anything over 4 weeks is a waste.



On a side note I cant believe you guys say var over winny. ( not talking to you Big)

[WARMachine]

Im an althlete bro... I cant use winny without it feeling like my arm is gonna fall off!

[Big]

100mgs ed it is .

help with diet would be nice.

sorry, diet is one of my many weak points. I could eat cheesecake for every meal and not gain an ounce of fat, so what works for me wouldn't work for most.
start up a thread in the diet forum, there are many people here who know everything you need to know to get it tweaked.

[god-send]

got to agree with bg here on the var/winny

after tons of reading i would pick winny over var any day -var seems way too mild and wont have no were near the same effect as winny and for that reason aam going with winny.

[god-send]

sorry, diet is one of my many weak points. I could eat cheesecake for every meal and not gain an ounce of fat, so what works for me wouldn't work for most.
start up a thread in the diet forum, there are many people here who know everything you need to know to get it tweaked.

that makes 2 off us because i can eat anythink i want and not gain any fat at all.

dammm when i stoped lifting for 6 months i eat like shit for 6 months and only gained 1-2% in bf,and i mean i ate like s h i t

[Reed]

Just cause you eat shit and don't gain fat does not mean those food sources are instead being used to build muscle. Difference b/w nutritive and non nutritive sources. But you all know that, I am in the same class as you all, but I notice eating like shit doesn't help put on muscle

[BG]

got to agree with bg here on the var/winny

after tons of reading i would pick winny over var any day -var seems way too mild and wont have no were near the same effect as winny and for that reason aam going with winny.

Ill tell you from experience they dont compare.

[BG]

I meant what doses prick-mouth!!!

And why dont you guys leave this shit for the lounge.

[BG]

Just cause you eat shit and don't gain fat does not mean those food sources are instead being used to build muscle. Difference b/w nutritive and non nutritive sources. But you all know that, I am in the same class as you all, but I notice eating like shit doesn't help put on muscle

Just slows your metabolism.

[god-send]

Ill tell you from experience they dont compare.

not for my goals anyway.

i know var is a great compound but i dont think it will give me what winny will

[Big]

Just cause you eat shit and don't gain fat does not mean those food sources are instead being used to build muscle. Difference b/w nutritive and non nutritive sources. But you all know that, I am in the same class as you all, but I notice eating like shit doesn't help put on muscle

oh, I agree. I don't eat like shit by a long shot, but still what works for me wouldn't work for many.

[Reed]

oh, I agree. I don't eat like shit by a long shot, but still what works for me wouldn't work for many.

Thats cause your Big

Take me under your wing

I can be the young bodybuilder experiment so to say of AR

[god-send]

^^^^^^^^^^^^ lol

[Gears]

sorry, diet is one of my many weak points. I could eat cheesecake for every meal and not gain an ounce of fat, so what works for me wouldn't work for most.
start up a thread in the diet forum, there are many people here who know everything you need to know to get it tweaked.

I hate you... I LOVE to eat, but the fat just loves to stick on me, so i`m always struggling.