First cycle.

[anon03191970]

Hello All,

I am getting ready to do my first cycle. I am waiting for the last components to arrive but then I am going for it.

Stats:

Age: 37
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 195
BF: 15%
Years Training: Off/On 7 years.

Here is my proposed cycle please feel free to comment

Week 1-14 Test E 500mg Every Week (Monday Injection)
Week 1-12 Deca 400mg Every Week (Thursday Injection)
Week 1-4 DBol 35mg Every Day.
Week 1-12 Novaldex 10/20 mg (Depending on if I feel side effects)

PCT

Week 16 (Idea Taken from newbie starter thread)
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

All injections will be in visible locations such as thighs and shoudlers.

Can't do glute shots I sit down most of the day so to my thinking a
painful ass and sitting for long stretches of time = pain, serious pain.

Since I am a t-shirt and cargo shorts kind of guy I feel I can hide any bruising or other injection effects.

If at all possible, I will post pics and results. I am a pretty stocky/big guy
now but feel I have reached the end of the line as far as "natural Body Building" can take me. (Especially at my age.) I am also staring 40 in the
face and I would like to be quite a bit more muscular when the big 40
hits. I know I am 37 but time flys and 40's right there.

Cardio will consist of boxing/kick boxing 2 times a week. I hate the tread mill or other thing like elliptical trainers.

Because of my job my diet will be a problem with consuming enough calories. Will approximately 3000 calories be sufficient to make serious gains over what I have now. I approximate I cosume about 2200 calories now. And other that protein supplementation, what other compounds would you guys recommend? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Both positive and negative.

[korsow]

Depending on the brand, Glute shots wont hurt at all..

Also, I rarely ever get bruises unless I get blood drawn, in fact, you cant even tell Ive had a shot.

Also, If you want to add calories.. Id suggest weight gaining formulas that are packed with cals,, just buy a couple of handy shakes, drink em warm lol and behold of the stinky ass gas..

Also Ive read an article that running Nolva allong with yer cycle might help with cholesterol levels that may be aggrevated by use of AAS, unfortunatly, I dont recall the web address..

What gage **** are you gonna use?

Anyways, Looks like a good first cycle to me :-)

[user12345654321]

i would split the test e up into 250mg mon/thurs. and instead of novla i would provirion at 50mg ED. i started a cycle like this a week ago and am feeling great so far. i'm about 20lbs lighter than you and i'm running dbol at 20mg ED and have already got great strength gains. just my opinion

[stpete]

Sounds good man but for your first cycle i think you'll be ok with the test and dbol. Save the deca for another time, and see how your body reacts to the test and dbol alone. Either way, good luck.

[LATS60]

^^ agreed, but don't, i repeat don't, run nolva on cycle if you are running deca. Use it for PCT.

[god-send]

yes running nolva while useing deca can promote gyno.

[anon03191970]

I will be using 18G pins to draw then changing them out with
23G Pins to inject. So the small size of the 23G pin will not cause
to much trauma to my glute. Also I will have to self inject
as my quad and delt are very visible to me, my arse isn't
so I thought it would be easier.

Any thing specific to a quad or delt shot I should be wary about.

the 23G pins are 1/2" long.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

[god-send]

looks like you know what your doing ,its good to see a guy who has done his reserch.

cycle looks good

[jethro1]

Doesn't look bad, but u definitly don't need 3 compounds for your first cycle. I usually only take 2-3 compounds and i've been using gear 10yrs on/off. A good diet and hard training are the most important things.

[WARMachine]

^ I agree, no need for Deca for your first cycle...

[anon03191970]

I chose to include deca because of the it's
ability to aid in joint pain alleviation.

And for it's low androgenic side effects.

But if you think two compounds are sufficient,
should I eliminate the DBol then, since I am already
bulky?

[WARMachine]

Week 16 (Idea Taken from newbie starter thread)
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

Thats a HORRIBLE PCT...

300mgs of Clomid day one? Why???

Adex and Nolva reduce each others effectivness...

Try
Nolva - 20/20/20/20
Clomid - 50/50/25/25


And its up to you if you want to get rid of the dbol... It does retain a lot of water, as does Deca...

[stpete]

I chose to include deca because of the it's
ability to aid in joint pain alleviation.

And for it's low androgenic side effects.

But if you think two compounds are sufficient,
should I eliminate the DBol then, since I am already
bulky?

So you have joint pain?

[SK1Viking]

i would use a 1 inch pin for the quad and 1.5 in the glute.

1/2 is too short for these, exept the delt.

good luck!!!

[Mulciber]

well, as far as the pct.. the 300/100/50 deal with the clomid was standard at one time..some still use it.. i use to..worked well.. the only time i really had issues with clomids sides was when running it at 300mg that first day.. breaking it up into 3 100mg doses as well.. found that running it at 100mg ed and taking it at night before bed worked just as well and avoided the sides.
the theory behind running both nolvadex and adex as well with the clomid are explained here in pheednos pct.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94626
there are many pct protocols. need to figure out what works best for you

now i run .25 ldex all the way through my cycles.. usually 10mg nolvadex as well..
anyways, after last shot i bump the nolvadex to 20mg and continue the adex at .25.
when its time i add 100mg clomid to the 20mg nolvadex and .25 adex and run this for 30 days.. now its not the golden rule, hell, sure some will argue against it..old school? maybe
but its what works best for me and if it aint broke why fix it..