First Cycle Ever... what do You think, any mistake?

[SkyDiver73]

Ciao guys these are my current stats:

35yo, 12y working out, 6'1, 201 lbs, 13% bf.

These is what I plan to do for my first cycle and probably, the last:

WEEK DRUG ANTI E PCT

1 TO 11 TEST EN 500MG TAMOXIFEN C. 10MG ED

12 TEST EN 500MG TAMOXIFEN C. 10MG ED
HCG 1500IU

13-14 HCG 1500IU X2
TAMOXIFEN C. 20MG ED

15-16 TAMOXIFEN C. 20MG ED
CLOMIPHENE C. *
HCG 1500IU X2

17 TAMOXIFEN C. 20MG ED
CLOMIPHENE C. 50MG ED

*
WEEK 15 WEEK 16
DAY 1 300MG DAY 1 TO 4 100MG
DAY 2 TO 7 100MG DAY 5 TO 7 50MG

I shall eat 7000 KCal x day with an intake of 35oz of proteins.

Letroplex, Roaccutan, Proscar, Lasix, and T4 at hand if needed for the related side effects.

As per your experience, how much "clen" weight should I accomplish once reached the 18th week?

So, what do you think after all?
Thank you very much indeed for taking my case into account.

[LATS60]

Looks fine, i think i understand it lol.
So it goes something like this

Wk 1-12 test e 500mg wk.
Wk 14-18 nolva 40/20/20/20.
Wk 14-18 clomid 100/50/50/50
Hcg if the nuts shrink
Wk 10-14 500iu 3xwk.
Nolva on hand should any gyno issues arise.
AI on hand to control estrogen if needed.

[DS21]

Ciao guys these are my current stats:

35yo, 12y working out, 6'1, 201 lbs, 13% bf.

These is what I plan to do for my first cycle and probably, the last:

WEEK DRUG ANTI E PCT

1 TO 11 TEST EN 500MG TAMOXIFEN C. 10MG ED

12 TEST EN 500MG TAMOXIFEN C. 10MG ED
HCG 1500IU

13-14 HCG 1500IU X2
TAMOXIFEN C. 20MG ED

15-16 TAMOXIFEN C. 20MG ED
CLOMIPHENE C. *
HCG 1500IU X2

17 TAMOXIFEN C. 20MG ED
CLOMIPHENE C. 50MG ED

*
WEEK 15 WEEK 16
DAY 1 300MG DAY 1 TO 4 100MG
DAY 2 TO 7 100MG DAY 5 TO 7 50MG

I shall eat 7000 KCal x day with an intake of 35oz of proteins.

Letroplex, Roaccutan, Proscar, Lasix, and T4 at hand if needed for the related side effects.

As per your experience, how much "clen" weight should I accomplish once reached the 18th week?

So, what do you think after all?
Thank you very much indeed for taking my case into account.

IMO, you don't need nolva on cycle unless you get signs of gyno, keep it for your post cycle. If you like use an AI during arimadex or aromasin work well with test only cycles. 1500iu of HCG 2xweek is a lot. You can use 500iu 2xwk and it will do the job. No need to use 300mg of clomid day one of pct. The pct that lats has laid out is perfect. You should gain some quality muscle with your calories so high as long as they are clean and your training is good, anywhere from 10-25lbs.

[SkyDiver73]

Looks fine, i think i understand it lol.
So it goes something like this

Wk 1-12 test e 500mg wk.
Wk 14-18 nolva 40/20/20/20.
Wk 14-18 clomid 100/50/50/50
Hcg if the nuts shrink
Wk 10-14 500iu 3xwk.
Nolva on hand should any gyno issues arise.
AI on hand to control estrogen if needed.

My mistake, I have written in a different format but it came out like that at the end...

Anyway, I'll had what you missed:

Wk 1-11 test e 500mg wk + nolva 10 ed (to lower estrogen and water)

Wk 12 test e 500mg + nolva 10 ed + hcg 1500 IU

Wk 13-14 hcg 1500 IU wk + nolva 20 ed (by using it since the starting I do not need to use a 40 intake, right?)

Wk 15-16 nolva 20 mg ed + clomid 300x1/100x10/50x3 + hcg 1500 IU wk

Wk 17 nolva 20 mg ed + clomid 50mg ed

1. Nolva is useless for gyno, letro on hand, correct? so why you quoted differently.
2. Estrogen, by using the minimum amount of test e and nolva from the very beginning at a low dose, should not be a problem, correct? so why you quoted to have an AI on hand to control estrogen?
3. the nuts will shrink anyway, correct? so why not using hcg to prevent it ?

[SkyDiver73]

IMO, you don't need nolva on cycle unless you get signs of gyno, keep it for your post cycle. If you like use an AI during arimadex or aromasin work well with test only cycles. 1500iu of HCG 2xweek is a lot. You can use 500iu 2xwk and it will do the job. No need to use 300mg of clomid day one of pct. The pct that lats has laid out is perfect. You should gain some quality muscle with your calories so high as long as they are clean and your training is good, anywhere from 10-25lbs.

but nolva is useless for gyno, I want to use it to prevent too much water storing and to lower the estrogen to start a better pct later on.

my mistake regarding hcg, I meant 1500 IU per week but I see 1000 could be enough too.

[SkyDiver73]

but nolva is useless for gyno, I want to use it to prevent too much water storing and to lower the estrogen to start a better pct later on.

my mistake regarding hcg, I meant 1500 IU per week but I see 1000 could be enough too.

something else, since I am not a native english speaker, what does IMO mean?

[LATS60]

but nolva is useless for gyno, I want to use it to prevent too much water storing and to lower the estrogen to start a better pct later on.

my mistake regarding hcg, I meant 1500 IU per week but I see 1000 could be enough too.

DS21 is correct mate, you seem to have misunderstood the role of SERMS and AI's.
Nolva on hand for any gyno symptoms that may arise.
AI to control estrogen.
IMO, in my opinion.

[DS21]

but nolva is useless for gyno, I want to use it to prevent too much water storing and to lower the estrogen to start a better pct later on.

my mistake regarding hcg, I meant 1500 IU per week but I see 1000 could be enough too.

Nolva helps with preventing gyno, but is best used during post cycle, imo. To prevent/lower water retention you would want to add an AI like arimidex or aromasin, they will also help lower your chance of getting gyno. If you get a chance, you should read the profiles on serms: clomid nolva and AI: Letro Arimidex Aromasin. If I spelled them right, you can just click on the word and it will tell you more about each one.

[DS21]

DS21 is correct mate, you seem to have misunderstood the role of SERMS and AI's.
Nolva on hand for any gyno symptoms that may arise.
AI to control estrogen.
IMO, in my opinion.

I should of keep scrolling down to see you already answered the questions before posting, LOL.

[SkyDiver73]

thank you to both of you.
then, what do you think about the new cycle I posted in the new thread?