my firsy cycle please...

[carrera104]

hi guys this is my first cycle and i am really worried and i need your help.
my trainer suggested a training schedule for and i need to know if it is safe and effective.

first day decca 50 gm

second day primobolan 100 gm

third day testosterone 250 gm

fourth day decca 50 gm

fifth day primobolan 100 gm

this going to be for 10 weeks

and before each excersice i need to take dianabol tabllets


is it good and safe or i need to change things

best regards

[Phate]

hi guys this is my first cycle and i am really worried and i need your help.
my trainer suggested a training schedule for and i need to know if it is safe and effective.

first day decca 50 gm

second day primobolan 100 gm

third day testosterone 250 gm

fourth day decca 50 gm

fifth day primobolan 100 gm

this going to be for 10 weeks

and before each excersice i need to take dianabol tabllets


is it good and safe or i need to change things

best regards

your trainer is an idiot, what is gm? i'm a chemistry major and don't know what you are talking about, i hope it's not grams or did you misstype mg

[carrera104]

i just misstyped it it's mg

[Phate]

i just misstyped it it's mg

either way, how bout some stats

age
height
weight
bf
training exp
cycle exp (i'd bet zero)
diet?
pct?

[carrera104]

age 27
height 5'6
weight 170
training exp 3 years
it's first cycle

[kaberle_15]

Cycle is insane dont do it

[Phate]

i wrote this a while ago, read through it and then ask questions, not trying to be mean, just learned that people learn better when they do things themselves

first thing, you need to get your diet in check, here is some threads on cutting, lean bulking and pure bulking to give you some info, but you need to post your diet for critiqueing, your wasting your money otherwise

Diet

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113010
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=75729
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=143553
http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/calories/calories.html

only when you have your diet down should you think about cycling, a beginner cycle should look like this

1-12 test e 500mg/week
1-4 dbol 40mg/day ( this is used to kickstart the cycle and is optional)

take your test injections 3.5 days apart, like monday morning and thursday evening

split your dbol up throughout the day, this will keep your blood levels stable, which means less sides and more gains

if you take the dbol, supplement with liv52 to help you liver cope with breaking down the dbol

btw, here are the profiles on the AS you will be using so read them and get to know the stuff your putting in your body

Test Enth
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199827

Dianabol
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199829

Next is your pct, which should begin two weeks after your last test injection and should be a phneedo's pct, whats that you ask? here it is

Pheendo's PCT
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94626

while your at it read this one as well for future cycles

Anthony Roberts PCT
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758


Now for some other important stuff, you need to have some arimidex on hand in case you start getting water retention or gyno, so get some, in fact, read this thread 3x before you start your cycle as it will tell you....

All You Need To Know About Gyno

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236880

that should get you read for your cycle, best of luck

DECA THREAD

would run a test only cycle for a first cycle for several reasons
1. Your receptors are fresh so a test first cycle will yield VERY GOOD results as long as your diet, which is the most important part of bodybuilding, and training is on point.

2. Since you are afraid of gyno and estrogen related sides, deca is a bad choice for a first cycle as it is a progestrine, let me elaborate a bit on this. Testosterone gets converted to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme, but deca doesn't aromatize to estrogen at all, instead it stimulates progestrone, which can cause the same sides as estrogen, but here's the kicker
Since test stimulates sides via estrogen and deca stimulates sides via progestrone if you get sides which do you treat the gyno, acne, whatever... things like nolva actually can make sides caused by deca worse by making the progesterone receptors more sensitive

as you can see, running deca for a first cycle can be risky especially if you are afraid of gyno

3.Oh yes, there's more, deca is a 19nor and is very supressive so the pct is going to have to be more intensive and thus more expensive

[Reed]

First advice find a new trainer. Never seen any cycle like that. Does he have you on a diet and workout program. Post those for us to help you

[carrera104]

actually i am doing the diet myself

[Reed]

Post your diet bud, stats look good, what about your goals?? Phate gave you a excellent starter "pack" follow that advice for a first timer. the Test dbol cycle would be great for a first go around. That trainer is just plain retarded, never in my life.....

[carrera104]

what about using only primobolan

[Reed]

Go ahead Phate I see you in here, I gotta go cook. brb in a few if he hasn't helped you. but no to answer your question

[Phate]

Go ahead Phate I see you in here, I gotta go cook. brb in a few if he hasn't helped you. but no to answer your question

i'm actually taking some chem tests, but no to the primo, read over the info i gave you and post a diet for us to critique

[Reed]

Ok I will help on the reasons no primo only. First you will be disappointed though it is less suppressive you will still need to run a PCT. It is very expensive and often faked (more fake than real) and too mild unless you run large doses which most can't afford. Stick to the test

[carrera104]

i just bought evrything.....

[carrera104]

do you mean testosterone

[Reed]

i just bought evrything.....

That sucks, from your dumbass trainer?? What all do you have, list the amounts, vials, amps??

[Reed]

do you mean testosterone

For what?? No Primo is what I was talking about, with the gains sucking and being faked. test is what you should run

[carrera104]

i know you were talking about primo but what do you mean by test is what you should run

[Reed]

That is the steroid you always run in any cycle. Look over the information Phate gave you. Its better to learn this stuff yourself so you understand what you are doing exactly. Don't start anything yet, I know your probably antsy but this is serious business and you want to do it the right way

[carrera104]

thank you guys i really appreciate you replies...

bless you all

[Reed]

Good luck my friend. Study up, get the right information and come back with your first cycle to critique.