First Cycle - few questions

**Brunker1** · 10-06-2008, 01:37 PM

STATS
age - 19
weight - 190
height - 5'10
yrs weight lifting - 4-5
First cycle
body fat - unknown ( i think around 9-12)

My first cycle is and Eq + Sustanon stack as follows

300mg EQ weekly
125mg Sust 250 EOD (avg's to about 437.5mg/week)

my diet is pretty strict, and ive always been a monster in the gym, benching 3plates since I was 17, reached a plateua that i havent been able to shake, so here we are

One question, i felt very nautious after my first inject of sust and EQ, so much that i had to leave the gym before I puked everywhere during my leg workout. Is this normal?

cheers

**god-send** · 10-06-2008, 01:43 PM

bro your way too young ,your natural test levals are at there peak and by injecting steroids and shuting your natty test down can only lead too problems later on.

**Brunker1** · 10-06-2008, 01:45 PM

Considering ive already started
Im not gonna back out now,

with a good hard PCT consisting of nolva and HCG ,
you think I can avoid hormone imbalances later?

and what about the nausea?

**Brown Ninja** · 10-06-2008, 01:47 PM

Prepare to get lit up. 19 is just to young. You are going to do what you want at the end of the day but on these boards you are going to be hard pressed to find someone on here that thinks you should be using gear at 19.

**god-send** · 10-06-2008, 01:47 PM

nausea is very normal ,did you aspirate ?

nolva/hcg is not the best pct you can do.

how long will you be runing sust and eq?

**Brunker1** · 10-06-2008, 01:50 PM

I understand I may have made a mistake... lets not further dwell on that

From what Ive read about EQ, its a long and slow building, so I decided to do this cycle for 10 weeks.

If nolva and HCG isnt the best, then what is?

what do u mean by 'lit up'? sounds like a good thing to me... lol

**DEVLDOG** · 10-06-2008, 01:58 PM

"lit up" means your gonna get flamed!

dont worry,i wont flame you,i was 17 when i first started,im 38 now and bigger and stronger then ever.

I dont condone it but your an adult,you can do what you want with your body bro.took me lots of yrs trial and error,apparently after reading a bunch of threads lately theres lots of people stuck in the past with the thinking that i've read. every body is different,you need to experiment to see what works for you and what doesnt..dont get causght up in the the this drug dose this that drug does that,your diet and cardio will dictate what happens to your body,you can get shredded on dbol if your diet is right,at this point you really dont need anything but test and lots of it..test is one of those drugs,that the more you take the bigger you get and thats no BS. at your level I always tell ppl to start at 500mg/week,thats a good starting point and as you learn what it does to your body you can go from there and add on later downt the rode,some deca will be needed for collogen resysnthasis or your gonna dry your tendons/ligiments out(thats a fact), start low and you can always add more when your ready

**Brunker1** · 10-06-2008, 02:04 PM

Well im gonna train like a monster weights 5/days a week min.

Cardio i got muay-thai 3 days a week plus my own cardio 1-2 times a week

Now im just worried about the age thing and how drastic of an effect it will have on my natural development, etc.

Anyone who knows the perfect PCT for me please let me know and why, I will do whatever it takes to re-balance myself properly.

Cheers

**Brunker1** · 10-06-2008, 02:32 PM

god-send if you dont think that nolva and hcg is the good PCT
I would love to know what u think would be better

would reallly appreciate it thx

**god-send** · 10-06-2008, 02:36 PM

nolva 20/20/20/20

proviron 50/50/50/50

maybe clomid 50/50/25/25

that pct along with adx on cycle works for me every time ... - the clomid as i hate the sides

**Brunker1** · 10-06-2008, 02:51 PM

How come you dont believe in HCG ?

And what is adx? on cycle means i need to get my hands on it soon!

thx for the reply

**god-send** · 10-06-2008, 02:57 PM

no need for hcg imo unless running longer cycles.

Arimidex = adex this will help with any estrogen problems while on cycle(gyno) will also keep the bloat down to a minimum(warter retension)

**DEVLDOG** · 10-06-2008, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by god-send

no need for hcg imo unless running longer cycles.

Arimidex = adex this will help with any estrogen problems while on cycle(gyno) will also keep the bloat down to a minimum(warter retension)

agree

Hcg is good during loooooong cycles and at the end of a cycle,500iu eod for last 2weeks before you start pct should do the trick

**WARMachine** · 10-06-2008, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Brunker1

How come you dont believe in HCG ?

And what is adx? on cycle means i need to get my hands on it soon!

thx for the reply

HCG is not needed in this case. Though it wouldnt hurt anything.

Adex is an AI that is best used on cycle to control estrogen.

.25mgs ED is generally the dose most use.

If you are gonna run it, use it till the day before you begin your PCT and then stop.

Nolva and Adex reduce each others effectiveness, therefore, Adex is no good for PCT.