Winny =Last help question

[SolarTint]

As I Have heard from many of you guys

Winny is not strong enough to give you gyno
correct?

[redz]

I dont hear of it happening in general but I would not rule it out entirely. Are you planning on running it alone?

[jstraw428]

Winny does not aromatize.....therefore, there would not be an estrogen build up, and hence no gyno...

[PT]

exactly. winny does not aromatize

[redz]

Thats what I thought but i wasnt sureif he was refering to it toally by itself or with another compound.

[SolarTint]

Thats what I thought but i wasnt sureif he was refering to it toally by itself or with another compound.

I wanna run it by itself

[redz]

I wanna run it by itself

Hopefully its atleast the injectable form as the oral form is not good to run for long.

[jstraw428]

I wanna run it by itself

NOT A GOOD IDEA BRO......i am assuming this is your first cycle.....


Stats
age
height
weight
bf%
cycle history if any

[jstraw428]

Hopefully its atleast the injectable form as the oral form is not good to run for long.

it doesnt matter, winny is 17aa.....injectible or oral still affect the liver the same......

[redz]

Are you sure I could swear I read the oral was worse for the liver than the injectable form.

[jstraw428]

nope, they are the exact same.....they are 17aa, which allows it to make it through the liver on the first pass.....THis is why you can drink injectible winny......

[SolarTint]

Are you sure I could swear I read the oral was worse for the liver than the injectable form.

I wanna run winny by itself with a buddy
its ganna be i think a 4 week cycle
and its ganna be pills no injections im afraid of needles lol

Im 27
6"1
around 190 lbs
and 8-9% body fat

i have been going to the gym for about 3 yrs

[redz]

its ganna be i think a 4 week cycle
and its ganna be pills no injections im afraid of needles lol

Injections dont hurt its a purely mental thing, once you do one you will wonder why you were afraid.

[SolarTint]

Injections dont hurt its a purely mental thing, once you do one you will wonder why you were afraid.

lol people are diffrent

so am i allowed to run winny by itself without worrying about gyno or something?

[redz]

No gyno from winny but most people around ehre sugest running test with winny.

[redz]

You should still do a pct though like clomid or nolva for a few weeks.

[SolarTint]

You should still do a pct though like clomid or nolva for a few weeks.

is there any of this stuff in pill form and
where can i purchase this stuff

[redz]

ar-r.com has it the banner at the top. Its liquid you take orally.

[NewMuscle83]

is there any of this stuff in pill form and
where can i purchase this stuff

Hmm sounds like you haven't done much research. I'm not talking shit, but I suggest you read A LOT more. PCT is very necessary. Not just to combat sides, and bring back your natural test production, but without it you risk losing ALL of your gains.

Will you gain anything on Winni alone? Sure.
Is it recommended alone? The majority of the pros will say NO.
PCT? 110% of people who know anything about AAS will tell you that it is more than necessary.

Read a few more threads on this site, and research diet and PCT, as I have a suspicion that your goals can be achieved by simply eating right.

[SolarTint]

ar-r.com has it the banner at the top. Its liquid you take orally.

i havent really done reaserch on this stuff the nolva or w.e
do you use it during your cycle or after

[redz]

After your cycle. PCT is used to get your body back to normal. Nolva or clomid only for 3-4 weeks should be plenty for that cycle. Just 20mg ed of nolva or 25-50mg ed of clomid.

[jstraw428]

You can get all your PCT gear from the red banner at the top of the screen, and yes it is all in oral liquid form....

[bbminded]

i have ran winny by itself before and gained 25lbs of lean muscle but i do feel now after more education that it would be best to add some test. prefferably test P. but everyone is different! def have some pct ready to go so you can retain what gains you make wether its from winny alone or a combo cause winny alone will shut you down!!

[WARMachine]

You gained 25lbs of LMM off oral winny alone? ^^^

Im sorry but i have to call that into question.

[bbminded]

no not oral winny nabolic strong winny inj. and i was at 6% BF

[michael tyson]

i have ran winny by itself before and gained 25lbs of lean muscle but i do feel now after more education that it would be best to add some test. prefferably test P. but everyone is different! def have some pct ready to go so you can retain what gains you make wether its from winny alone or a combo cause winny alone will shut you down!!

[bbminded]

LOL i guess some people cant stand to see other people get quality gains from low dose single compounds. come on people. just telling the truth. and i even said after i educated myself more that adding test to such a compound and pct would be most advisable.

[WARMachine]

I dont care if you gained that much or not bro... Dont flatter yourself.

I just find it VERY hard to believe you gained 25lbs of LMM off of Winny alone.

Ive never heard of anyone gaining that much off winny alone.

[bbminded]

yea!!! well i guess thats why everyone hates me when i tell them what i gain. ive done 250mg of sust a week and put on the same. so go figure. im not pulling anyones chain. whats the point and what do i have to gain?? and im not flattering myself dude. just the facts.