First Cycle Questions

[972Stang]

Longtime reader, first time poster.

Ok, so after much research I still have a few questions before I began my first cycle. Before the questions this is all the info of my cycle, size and diet.

Week 1-4 Dianabol - 20mg per day
Week 1-7 Winstrol - 50mg per day
Week 1-9 Test. E - 500 mg per week (2 injections of 250mg)

PCT

Week 10 - 100mg Clomid and 20mg Tamoximed per day
Week 11 - 50mg Clomid and 20mg Tamoximed per day

Size

Height - 6'2"
Weight - 208lbs
BF - 8.3%
Age - 23

Diet

3500 Calories
Low fat
High Protein
mid-low carbs

Questions

Does everything look good? Any suggestions?

What should I do about prevention? I have read/witnessed so many different things. I believe I am going to go with letro.

Thanks for any advice

[rhino1]

too complicated for your first cycle

try test 500mg/wk x12wks
dbol 40mg/day x4wks

Up your calories to around 5000

[oneshot]

most will recommend a simpler first cycle but that's your call. what are you trying to achieve? are you taking the winny orally or injecting it? definitely run the test a few weeks longer and run the nolva for a few more weeks afterward

[anabolictonic]

test e should be run longer than that and a longer pct... drop the winnie too for first cycle

[972Stang]

most will recommend a simpler first cycle but that's your call. what are you trying to achieve? are you taking the winny orally or injecting it? definitely run the test a few weeks longer and run the nolva for a few more weeks afterward

Winny orally.

10-15 muscle gain, while keeping the same bf percentage.

Should I add 2 more weeks of clomid?

[972Stang]

too complicated for your first cycle

try test 500mg/wk x12wks
dbol 40mg/day x4wks

Up your calories to around 5000

What do you mean by too complicated?

This was my second choice, what do you think about it?

Week 1-10 - Equipoise 400mg and Test E. 500mg Weekly
Week 1-13 - Tamoximed 10 mg everyday
Week 13-15 - PCT Clomid and Tamoximed everyday

[972Stang]

test e should be run longer than that and a longer pct... drop the winnie too for first cycle

Why drop the Winny? Doesn't it help prevent gyno?

[oneshot]

don't run oral winny and dbol at the same time or you're gonna be putting your liver under a lot of stress. standard pct length = half the length of the cycle. If doing a 12 week cycle, run the nolva for 6 weeks at 20 mg and the clomid for 3 weeks. a-dex would be nice to throw in for pct as well.

[oneshot]

Why drop the Winny? Doesn't it help prevent gyno?

i wouldnt worry about gyno too much on that cycle. he said drop the winny because most people recommend a very basic first cycle. If you must run the winny, run it at the end so it doesnt overlap with the dbol.

[rhino1]

What do you mean by too complicated?

This was my second choice, what do you think about it?

Week 1-10 - Equipoise 400mg and Test E. 500mg Weekly
Week 1-13 - Tamoximed 10 mg everyday
Week 13-15 - PCT Clomid and Tamoximed everyday

YOU should ONLY use ONE compound on your FIRST cycle....

maybe add dbol if you want to push it

[972Stang]

don't run oral winny and dbol at the same time or you're gonna be putting your liver under a lot of stress. standard pct length = half the length of the cycle. If doing a 12 week cycle, run the nolva for 6 weeks at 20 mg and the clomid for 3 weeks. a-dex would be nice to throw in for pct as well.

Ok thanks. I was already planning on body cleansing during pct.

[rhino1]

Trust me...you will be very satisifed with your results with a simple cycle like

Test E/C 500mg/wk x 12 wks and proper pct

[972Stang]

YOU should ONLY use ONE compound on your FIRST cycle....

maybe add dbol if you want to push it

Ok, I think I am just going to go with what you said in your first post and then I will add some more weeks of pct.

[972Stang]

Trust me...you will be very satisifed with your results with a simple cycle like

Test E/C 500mg/wk x 12 wks and proper pct

you beat me to it....

[jamyjamjr]

dude your first cycle should be test alone.. that way when you add other compunds and something goes wrong, yuou know what caused it... stick to whats worked safe... just my opinion though....

[972Stang]

dude your first cycle should be test alone.. that way when you add other compunds and something goes wrong, yuou know what caused it... stick to whats worked safe... just my opinion though....

Thanks.

[DEVLDOG]

Longtime reader, first time poster.

whats a long time reader?

8 days?

[WARMachine]

Stick to a Test E or C cycle for your first. When you run more cycles then add more compounds.

btw, dont take Nolva on cycle. If you are concerned with Estrogen related sides, use an AI on cycle.