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    final double check on cycle

    week 1- 1250mg of test e per week and 70mg napoism(dbol )
    week 2- 500mg of test e per week and 50mg napoism(dbol) daily
    week 3- 500mg of test e per week and 50mg napoism(dbol) daily
    week 4- 500mg of test e per week and 30mg napoism(dbol) daily
    week 5- 500mg of test e per week and 30mg napoism(dbol) daily
    week 6- 500mg of test e per week
    week 7- 500mg of test e per week
    week 8- 500mg of test e per week
    week 9- 500mg of test e per week
    week 10- 500mg of test e per week
    week 11- 500mg of test e per week
    week 12- 500mg of test e per week

    start some pct

    week 13- 500iu of hcg daily
    week 14- 500iu of hcg daily
    week 15- 500iu of hcg daily and 50 mg clomid daily and 20 mg nolva daily
    week 16- 500iu of hcg daily and 50 mg clomid daily and 20 mg nolva daily
    week 17- 50 mg clomid daily and 20 mg nolva daily
    week 18- 50 mg clomid daily and 20 mg nolva daily

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    i dont like it .

    no need to frontload the test if your useing dbol .

    hcg for pct is not how i would use (dont really need it at all imo)

    weeks 1-12 500mgs test e per week

    weeks 1-4 50mgs dbol everyday (dont tapper due to unstable plasma levals)

    pct nolva / clomid

    20/20/20/20 nolva

    50/50/25/25

    a.i (adex) on cycle for gyno probs and bloat .25 or .5mgs every other day.

    hcg only for longer cycles imo.

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    You are frontloading AND kickstarting? Why? And what's up with the dbol dosage?
    Too much hcg . No need for 500iu DAILY. Try more like twice a week.
    Will you be running an AI on cycle? What about during pct?

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    i cant get adex...will letro sub in just fine? or can i just run 10mg of nolva every week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nworb View Post
    i cant get adex...will letro sub in just fine? or can i just run 10mg of nolva every week
    10mgs nolva every week will do nothing at all.

    its 20mgs nolva for gyno probs while on cycle and this can hinder gains some what ,thats why i go with an a.i on cycle.

    i dont like letro either its too strong for me.

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    i totall meant 10mgs of nolva ed
    is there anything weeker offered by the sponsor?

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    The board sponsor has liquidex (that's adex) for your research needs. It is a preferred on-cycle AI.

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    aha thanx!

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    what are thoughts on running test for 13 or 14 or 15 weeks?

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    go for it ,if your still gaining on week 12 -13 carry on with it.

    you may want to get some hcg if your going over 14 weeks

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    hcg for during the cycle or pct
    how do u suggest i run it?

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    am i missing something where is liquidex on the sponsor site....all i see is it offered in a combo

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    16 wek cycle

    hcg weeks 11-15 @ 500 ius every 3rd day.

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    are u saying 16 weeks of test or are u including the 2 week gap for pct and pct?

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    if you want to do a longer cycle -

    weeks 1-16 500mgs test e ew

    weeks 1-4 50mgs dbol ed

    weeks 11-15 500ius hcg every 3rd day

    pct nolva / clomid

    20/20/20/20 nolva

    50/50/25/25

    adex .25 every other day right upto day befor you start pct.

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    Is adex at .25 eod enough really. Good news if so (cause its pricey) but I am thinking you may have meant .25 ed?
    My cycle has it pencilled in at .25 eod now ,but I just ordered some more to get it a bit higher. .If I can ask since its a bit on topic is the adex better at a small dose ed or a lrger dose eod. IE. .25ed versus.50eod.
    Thanks.
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    all depends on the person imo.

    someone who is highly prone to bloat or gyno may want to run it .5mg-1mg eod over someone who wants too keep bloat down and is not prone to gyno then imo .25 eod would be good.

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