1st time cycle

**Mylo333** · 10-10-2008, 03:12 AM

Hey peeps

So i have decided to do a cycle of Test E as my 1st ever cycle, did some research on Test E and a pct, my friend suggests i stack with an oral, either d-bol or anapolon but i think i'm just going to go with the test for now...i'm more worried about the injecting than anything right now as i have little knowlege on injecting and at this point i cant inject myself, i have seen the post on injecting, i been through the forum almost this whole week and i've read alot of helpfull tips as a last thing before i get to the nitty gritty, can anyone please give me helpfull tips (especially on the injecting process) on my cycle, also how long should i go off Test E before i start another cycle?

**rhino1** · 10-10-2008, 03:14 AM

age
lifting experience
bf%
diet
goals

**Mylo333** · 10-10-2008, 03:35 AM

27
3 years
13.3% (darn machine must be lying i tell you)
Diet...

10 boiled egg whites 1 x yolk
1 cup oats

1 x Large Chicken Salad
Flax seed oil

Tuna Salad
1 cup rice

pre-workout
protein shake
1 cup oats

post workout
weight gainer
Banana
almonds

steak
2 x cups broccoli

Casein Protein shake + Peanut butter

100kg's less than 10% bf
currently at 81kg's

**Freakish** · 10-10-2008, 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by Mylo333

27
3 years
13.3% (darn machine must be lying i tell you) haha
Diet...

10 boiled egg whites 1 x yolk
1 cup oats

1 x Large Chicken Salad
Flax seed oil

Tuna Salad
1 cup rice

pre-workout
protein shake
1 cup oats

post workout
weight gainer
Banana
almonds

steak
2 x cups broccoli

Casein Protein shake + Peanut butter

100kg's less than 10% bf
currently at 81kg's

so you 81kgs at 13%bf,how tall are you?

bro you could definitely do with some more food!
well your stock standard first cycle should be 12wks test E @500mg/wk,so 250mg shot twice a wk.What you got lined up as your pct?and as a general rule time off = time on + pct,if you wanna go back on sooner get blood work done.as for injecting,id start off with glutes and quads,they really simple

**rhino1** · 10-10-2008, 03:54 AM

DONT boil your eggs......

Get egg beater egg whites...they are pasteurized...drink them raw....you dont destroy your protein

**Mylo333** · 10-10-2008, 04:00 AM

I'm a shorty, 1m64
well if it helps any my large salad is between 2 and 3 chicken breasts and my steak is at minimum 400g, i have tried getting more food in but my freakn stomach size just increases,

for my pct i'm thinking nolvadex not sure at this point on how much to take?

**Freakish** · 10-10-2008, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by Mylo333

I'm a shorty, 1m64
well if it helps any my large salad is between 2 and 3 chicken breasts and my steak is at minimum 400g, i have tried getting more food in but my freakn stomach size just increases,

for my pct i'm thinking nolvadex not sure at this point on how much to take?

when you say your stomach size increases you talking about feeling bloated?your body will ajust to the extra calories.

pct:start 2wks after last shot
1-4wk 20mg nolva ed
1-4wk 50mg clomid ed
1-4wk 25mg aromison ed

**Mylo333** · 10-10-2008, 04:12 AM

Thanks for the Pct info, much appreciated, so i run all 3 at the same time right?

No my stomach has grown quiet a bit, my pants dont even fit anymore, no i've been trying cardio out and although the machine says i'm loosing bf my stomach stays the same size

i have no fat on my forearms and calves and very lil on my arms and legs generally, but i'm sure my stomach makes up for that

**Mylo333** · 10-10-2008, 04:14 AM

Please tell me, when i inject, i've got to warm the dose to body temp? what else do i have to look for or do?

**Freakish** · 10-10-2008, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by Mylo333

Please tell me, when i inject, i've got to warm the dose to body temp? what else do i have to look for or do?

no ive never warmed my gear before shooting,however alot of peeps do and they say it helps,so yeah you could warm the vial up in some warm water before you draw it out.basic steps of what i do:
wash your hands
rub them down with isoprop
use an alcohol swab on the rubber stopper of the vial
draw out your dosage
switch pins
clean injection site with alcohol swab
push pin in slowly but firmly
aspirate
slowly inject your gear(i take about 1min/cc)
pull out pin
apply pressure to site with alcohol swab
massage if you want to

**Freakish** · 10-10-2008, 04:24 AM

were in SA you from?

**rhino1** · 10-10-2008, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by Freakish

no ive never warmed my gear before shooting,however alot of peeps do and they say it helps,so yeah you could warm the vial up in some warm water before you draw it out.basic steps of what i do:
wash your hands
rub them down with isoprop
use an alcohol swab on the rubber stopper of the vial
draw out your dosage
switch pins
clean injection site with alcohol swab
push pin in slowly but firmly
aspirate
slowly inject your gear(i take about 1min/cc)
pull out pin
apply pressure to site with alcohol swab
massage if you want to

you should do like greg valentino and lick the needle befor you inject....it gives you a little umph....j/k DO NOT DO THAT

**anabolictonic** · 10-10-2008, 05:49 AM

haha lick the needle... your diet structure is good but seems a little low just increase the amount a bit.. the foods your eating look good tho... what times your workout usually? should probly get another meal in there somewhere. Injecting make sure u take all the hygenic precautions listed above to avoid infection - when i first started injecting i would get really light headed during injections, then started drinking half a glass of orange juice before injection to keep the blood sugars up and never had a problem after that... worked for me. Goodluck

**Mylo333** · 10-12-2008, 11:49 PM

Thanks for the info, yeah i'm going to increase my food intake, just budget is a bit tight

right now and also i was on a bit of a cut, my stomach seems to be growing more than anything else, i'm starting to think i have a thyroid problem, anyways i'l start increasing my food intake in the new month.

Freakish,im from JHB - Benoni to be precise, yourself?

Ok so i was thinking i'm going to start injecting in the quads, is it less painful than in the

? flip i dont mean to sound like a lil kid but i havent ever injected myself, i'm sure i'l get used to it after a few times just need a bit of guidance...

Also i was thinking maybe i should stack my Test with GH?

Thanks again for the valuable info from everyone...

**Mulciber** · 10-13-2008, 12:19 AM

no need for GH at this point brutha..

**Mylo333** · 10-17-2008, 03:32 AM

So i'm about to get my 1st vial, i'm kind of excited but also nervous, i just wanted to know, should i keep a pct like novadex with me all the time or is it only needed 2 weeks after my last shot?

Another questions also is, i was just finding out the prices for GH and my friend told me there are 2 types, the 1 is a powder that needs to be mixed with something else? can anyone share more info on this, my friend says that the only difference is that this gh needs to be used in 28 days and is alot cheaper???

**Royal MaKo Rumble** · 10-17-2008, 03:57 AM

Mylo333, save yourself some money, some pain, and ALOT of time, with these sort of questions its evident you arnt ready for juicing, if you have to ask questions like "plz tell me when to inject" these elementry question should be known prior to starting because all answers to ur question can be found on here if u study but of course these guys will help u out but u dont become familiar with AAS itself....

dont mean to be a wet sock, but iv been through that and the end it will make the world of difference for you.

**Kale** · 10-17-2008, 03:57 AM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

**Mylo333** · 10-17-2008, 05:05 AM

Royal Bro, i know you just trying to help me and i appreciate it, infact (i know this is for my own good) i am going to go through the starter pack again and do more research on Test E before i buy it, but i'm just curious, where did you read that i said "plz tell me when to inject" ?

Thanks Kale...much appreciated