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    Injection temps

    I have tried warming up my sust to about 90 degrees in a glass of warm water just before injecting and it injects must easier. is this a common or good practice?

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    yup its common

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    Yes lot's of people warm their gear before injecting....

    It can reduce pain slightly and will make the oil less viscus thus easier to push though the needle....

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    Well i believe it will not cause any problem coz even your body temp is 98.7 approx until you do not heat it directly with heat. And even when you warm it up with water its only warmed upto 75 degrees. I do not recommend it but I think there is no problem with it. What do other guys have to say ?

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    be a man.....just inject it...

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    ^ Some do not want to hurt their @SS you know the needle factor... )

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    be a man.....just inject it...
    I second this. If you can't inject, go home.

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    i warm it in water - i forgot the other day cos was in a hurry and didnt notice a difference lol but since then i still warm it up haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    I second this. If you can't inject, go home.
    they are injecting, they are just doing it in a way that is easier for them, btw, heating up your gear could raise it's absorbtion rate due to hormonal activity increase as a result of heat energy being inserted into the system

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    they are injecting, they are just doing it in a way that is easier for them, btw, heating up your gear could raise it's absorbtion rate due to hormonal activity increase as a result of heat energy being inserted into the system
    It's going to get there either way Phate. You know this.

    You guys are trying too hard. Just inject it and you'll be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    It's going to get there either way Phate. You know this.

    You guys are trying too hard. Just inject it and you'll be fine.
    good point, i don't cycle yet so i just figured i'd take the harder argument, lol

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    like he said above, since your internal temp is 98.6* the added energy makes no difference. a little simple chem can tell you that Q = ms /\t ( thats my delta) so unless you're injecting ~a pint of something, it'll quickly heat up to your temperature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phate View Post
    good point, i don't cycle yet so i just figured i'd take the harder argument, lol
    lmao...lmao...lmao...lmao...

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    like he said above, since your internal temp is 98.6* the added energy makes no difference. a little simple chem can tell you that Q = ms /\t ( thats my delta) so unless you're injecting ~a pint of something, it'll quickly heat up to your temperature.
    nice delta, though don't you mean q=(m)(Cs)(^T) or were you shorthanding it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    lmao...lmao...lmao...lmao...
    well i'm in a slightly argumentative mood(some dude at the gym pissed me off)

    or were you laughing cause i said i don't cycle

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    Whatever fellas.....Inject and quit being a *****!!

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    yeah same thing. the amount * specific heat * change in temp = energy
    although i can't say i know the specific heat of a test susp, i'm sure the q is negligible when the m of blood in the body is taken into consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    well i'm in a slightly argumentative mood(some dude at the gym pissed me off)

    or were you laughing cause i said i don't cycle
    I'm not laughing cause you don't juice, that's fine with me. It's the way you said it. You're cool with me bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    Whatever fellas.....Inject and quit being a *****!!
    whoa whoa whoa!! theres always time for some CHEM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    yeah same thing. the amount * specific heat * change in temp = energy
    although i can't say i know the specific heat of a test susp, i'm sure the q is negligible when the m of blood in the body is taken into consideration.
    agreed, i just asked cause i just did a specific heat experiement to determine an unknown metal my professor wanted to know the composition of and i used a ^H=(mass in grams)(CsX)(^T) formula as a base and if you had another formula i was gonna memorize it and use it to check my results

    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    I'm not laughing cause you don't juice, that's fine with me. It's the way you said it. You're cool with me bro.
    Lol, yeah know that i reread what i wrote it does sound kinda weird, lol, oh well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    agreed, i just asked cause i just did a specific heat experiement to determine an unknown metal my professor wanted to know the composition of and i used a ^H=(mass in grams)(CsX)(^T) formula as a base and if you had another formula i was gonna memorize it and use it to check my results



    Lol, yeah know that i reread what i wrote it does sound kinda weird, lol, oh well
    It's cool.

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    no, they seem to be pretty much the same idea. i doubt there are many trick formulas to get around things in chem, unless you're pretty smart and can devise one. getting off topic, you're not majoring in chem are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    no, they seem to be pretty much the same idea. i doubt there are many trick formulas to get around things in chem, unless you're pretty smart and can devise one. getting off topic, you're not majoring in chem are you?
    No, chemistry is easily my strongest subject so i made it my minor and made biology(my weaker subject) my major so i would have to work harder at it, i'm also a physics major and biochem major, but i will double major in 3 years when i finish my first major/minor set

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    ouch... i have to ask why. besides math, i've always had a huge interest in chem, but bio and physics; not so much. physics is ok, but i've never really had a good teacher. bio i can't stand because i don't like memorizing facts as much as equations or ideas and implementing them.

    i'm on the fence about chemical engineering for my major, and my mom double majored in chem/ chem eng, and got a phd in physical chemistry, so i was subjected to it from the beginning lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    ouch... i have to ask why. besides math, i've always had a huge interest in chem, but bio and physics; not so much. physics is ok, but i've never really had a good teacher. bio i can't stand because i don't like memorizing facts as much as equations or ideas and implementing them.

    i'm on the fence about chemical engineering for my major, and my mom double majored in chem/ chem eng, and got a phd in physical chemistry, so i was subjected to it from the beginning lol
    i'm doing a double M.D. in Nuclear physics/radiology and Endocrinology so i need all the bio/biochem/phys/chem i can get

    i'm lucky, i have a major photographic memory, like my friend lauren today forgot her test review that she wanted me to tutor her on, well she showed it to me about a week ago and i called up the image in my head and she told me the numbers she had questions on and i could pull them from my head, helps me in music alot too

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    well thats pretty ridiculous.. i bet that makes studying a breeze. thats a pretty intense set of degrees, what kind of job are you looking for? it sounds like more than an ordinary ent doc lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    well thats pretty ridiculous.. i bet that makes studying a breeze. thats a pretty intense set of degrees, what kind of job are you looking for? it sounds like more than an ordinary ent doc lol.
    there's not a job for what i want to do yet, but basically i want to merge radiology and endocrinology and create a field that studies hormonal changes in response to radioactive stimulus which can then be used for alot of good uses like using radioactive substances to fight cancer by creating an anti-environment around the infected area

    and yeah, i very rarely have to study, i mostly use a combination of photo/tactile/sensory association to memorize material for exams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    they are injecting, they are just doing it in a way that is easier for them, btw, heating up your gear could raise it's absorbtion rate due to hormonal activity increase as a result of heat energy being inserted into the system
    is it really that big a deal? so you heat yours up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    is it really that big a deal? so you heat yours up?
    no it's not a big deal at all, change in energy of the system would be very little, and i don't cycle so i don't heat up anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    there's not a job for what i want to do yet, but basically i want to merge radiology and endocrinology and create a field that studies hormonal changes in response to radioactive stimulus which can then be used for alot of good uses like using radioactive substances to fight cancer by creating an anti-environment around the infected area

    and yeah, i very rarely have to study, i mostly use a combination of photo/tactile/sensory association to memorize material for exams

    well when there is you can practice on yourself..."maybe injecting steroids will cure the cancer...let me give it a try"...

    thats awesome...i wish i knew more technical scientific shit....

    Does it take a chemical engineer to home brew?

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    chemistry rocks, but only if it's o-chem, the elegant science, hehe.

    Other than that, advanced chemistry is just physics disguised by a mesh of molecules...

    And personally, if I see enthalpy equations start to pop up here, I may have to leave and never come back

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    well thats definitely not an impossible idea. the biggest problem i can think of is finding an initial investment to start the research. the best bet might just be to find a nice school and get all their grant money to research through them. otherwise i'm sure some big companies would donate some, but starting up a business would be pretty hard on your own.

    also, it might be a hard thing to test, since i'm sure you can't legally subject people to radiation for your tests, and the difference between things like test rats and humans might be drastic enough to nullify any findings in the former. nonetheless, it sounds like a very proactive venture forward

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    i guess when you think of it in a practical manner it makes sense...the conversion would be smoother i guess

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    Can we talk in laymans terms please? You fvcks. hahahahahahaahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    well when there is you can practice on yourself..."maybe injecting steroids will cure the cancer...let me give it a try"...

    thats awesome...i wish i knew more technical scientific shit....

    Does it take a chemical engineer to home brew?
    No, but it's nice to know basic chem and such for obvious reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ View Post
    chemistry rocks, but only if it's o-chem, the elegant science, hehe.

    Other than that, advanced chemistry is just physics disguised by a mesh of molecules...

    And personally, if I see enthalpy equations start to pop up here, I may have to leave and never come back
    according to your avatar you ain't runnin nowhere, lol, and i won't get into enthalpy unless i have too, or i'll be here all night, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    Can we talk in laymans terms please? You fvcks. hahahahahahaahahaha
    nope only geeks and nerds here

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    well I got a A- my highschool freshman year w/o studying....but havn't touched it since...balancing equasions f ucked me

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    Can we talk in laymans terms please? You fvcks. hahahahahahaahahaha
    Lol, the problem is that this is laymen's terms for us, normally we speak in variables and formulas, at least here we have to use words

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    No, but it's nice to know basic chem and such for obvious reasons



    according to your avatar you ain't runnin nowhere
    , lol, and i won't get into enthalpy unless i have too, or i'll be here all night, lol
    haha, well, I gave up hotdogs...since there's a finite amount of mass in the universe, I didn't feel right hoarding so much of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    Can we talk in laymans terms please? You fvcks. hahahahahahaahahaha
    lol i'd call that pretty simple. i'm only 18 and haven't really gotten into the good parts of chem in college yet, so i'm just going off knowledge of the basics and adding a little thought. i'm sure if he started getting complicated you wouldn't be the only one lost

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