Need advise on first cycle

[cody2008]

hello i have been lifting on and off for about 5 years now and recently moved to tucson, az and a buddy of mine suggested d-bol and winny orals to start off with cuz he had good results from it but i am new to the heavy duty stuff, i have takin lighter stuff before and also have gyno in left breast from it cuz i was uneducated so please help and i dont know all the roid acronyms and slang so please spell it out, also my goal is to bulk up and lower body fat and get ripped, so here are my stats

age-21
weight-190
height-5'10"
diet-pretty good
body fat- not sure but guess around 20%

[JiGGaMaN]

You are going to want to get that body fat down. Coming from someone who has been around 20% forever you wanna drop at least 5% before considering anything. Also, dbol and winstrol are good individually as PART of a cycle, but not as a cycle in themselves.

[jamyjamjr]

do a test only cycle, keep lethro on hand for gyno issues and even though i started at a higher bf than u, u should hold off and diet.. i got lucky i didn't experiance adverse sides

[Brown Ninja]

Look under Beginners Cycles on the front page, they have some excellent info for you. The BF is a little high so I would recommend shedding some more. I know its frustrating to hear but its literally a waste of money not to be down to at least 15% and even preferably lower than that. Good luck!

[cody2008]

thanks alot guys i figured i needed to drop bf% i was just hoping it would drop with the cycle, just trying to take the easy way out lol

[michael tyson]

thanks alot guys i figured i needed to drop bf% i was just hoping it would drop with the cycle, just trying to take the easy way out lol

you and everybody else. listen to the folks here, and read as much as you can in these forums before you begin your cycle. good luck bro

[JiGGaMaN]

thanks alot guys i figured i needed to drop bf% i was just hoping it would drop with the cycle, just trying to take the easy way out lol

I would recommend looking into T3

[cody2008]

i was lookin into test e and read that its used to gain muscle while losing fat, so if i did a test e cycle only that would fix my bf prob and gain muscle right? also i read that winni helps with getting ripped so should i stack that with the test e? sorry jiggaman but whats T3?

[JiGGaMaN]

i was lookin into test e and read that its used to gain muscle while losing fat, so if i did a test e cycle only that would fix my bf prob and gain muscle right? also i read that winni helps with getting ripped so should i stack that with the test e? sorry jiggaman but whats T3?

thyroid hormone. its probably a good place to start. my experience with it was that you couldnt put on weight no matter how bad you eat.

[cody2008]

ya i was lookin it up and i dont know if we can talk about prices on here

[jamyjamjr]

edit that price,u cant talk about prices (made the same mistake last week)

[PrideFEDOR]

1st thing 1st : Spend time till New Years to bring ur bf% down. Second, you have gyno and your buddy suggests two oral compounds that aromatize very easily to the point that gyno prone guys had to sign up for victoria secret credit card in the past from doing DBOL only cycle for a prolonged period of time. You can check all the prices you need at the board sponsor's web site. AR-R.com i believe !

[superhuman_98]

I am a beginner and am thinking of starting with the "stack" purchase of D-anabol, Tren, and Winn. I am 40, 5'10, 175, about 15% body fat. My question is "anyone think this stack is a GOOD buy and has anyone experienced acne with it's use?" - thanks all