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    bethers is offline New Member
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    started first cycle today but need help

    I think I posted in the wrong forum so hopefully this ones right. started my first cycle today of 200mg Deca with my next injection OF 200mg Deca on Thursday, was going to run with test E but due to whats available this is what I have. I have Noladax to hand and Sust 250 but a bit unsure of the Sust as in a previous post I didn't get much feed back about it being legit or not? PLEASE CAN ANYONE ADVISE ME ON WHAT I SHOULD DO NEXT!

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    yes .

    give us your stats 1st.

    deca alone is a very very very bad idea.

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    First off lets see these

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    Secondly, thats a very low dose of Deca . If you are going to use it, id say 400mgs minimum.

    That being said, you should not be doing Deca, it is considered a advanced compound, not to mention a simple Test E cycle is best for first time users.

    If you want, you can stop the Deca, and just do the Sust. Or, stop the cycle altogether.

    Do NOT run Deca alone.

    What is your proposed PCT?

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    thanks for quick response guys,
    have posted stats already...!
    and photos of the gear ...
    Didnt want to use the sus as was told to inject every other day..as iam new to steriods think that this was bad idea..didnt want to stack first time as i wanted to monitor one drug at a time ...

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    you can still get away with sust twice a week.. may not be the optimum way to run it but its fine.

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    ^^ True...


    And as far as not wanting to stack its already been said, Deca alone is no good.

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    thanks for all your advice how about adding some dianabol
    week1 200mg Deca + 20mg Dbol
    week2 200mg Deca + 30mg dbol
    week3 200mg Deca + 40mg dbol
    week 4-7 400mg Deca + 50mg dbol
    week8 200mg Deca + 40mg dbol
    week9 200mg Deca + 30mg dbol
    week10 200mg Deca + 20mg dbol
    Nolvadax to run throughout , Clomid 2 weeks after last injection

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    Did you just entirely miss what we said? Or do you just not care?


    Nolva on cycle is always dumb IMO, but it is HORRIBLE when you are using Deca or Tren . Youre asking for sides.

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    ehhh, not for me.. dbol is not test..
    there was a time tho when deca /dbol cycles were quite the thing.. in the 70's..

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    Nolva and deca LMAO. Get ready buy a bra for those titty's.

    Research bro. research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    First off lets see these

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    ????

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    Come on BIG, we all know the answer to this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bethers View Post
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    i eat really good. Like 4 protein shakes a day. Cause we all know how important those are. I probably eat chicken for lunch and dinner. and a BIG bowl of ceral every morning, cause its the most important meal of the day. Then i snack on a few sandwhichs my mom makes me. I love PB&J!

    Ive been working out for like 3 years, im a REALLY HARD GAINER. Last 3 months seriously.
    I go to the gym 7 times a week and do bi's everyday, and chest 4 times a week.

    Cycled once, i bought from buysteroids.com and got some good gains from it. (Var-10 rocks!)

    And i know about PCT, trust me, i have Nolvadex .

    i want to get huge! Like really huge. I want to get to 225lbs from this cycle? This sound reasonable

    Im sorry, but some people just do not learn.

    They just think hey i can get AAS. Im gonna cycle.

    And have NO clue what they are doing and just end up hurting themselves...

    Look son, you need to not cycle. You need to sit here, and research and read. And when you are done, do it again. I researched for 2 yrs before cycling Now two years later i STILL dont know everything. So should wait as well.
    Last edited by WARMachine; 10-13-2008 at 06:40 PM.

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^lmfao your sick mate.

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    This thread is a classic example of what not to do, and why research works.

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    Like i said... Im sorry guys, but these kids NEED to be pointed in the right direction...

    There are FAR too many people here, who do not know what they are doing. And i feel as experienced members of this board, we should do so...

    If a guy is DEAD-SET on using despite what we say, then at least help him not make mistakes that can hurt them.


    just my .02 guys...


    Sorry again

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    I like your style war4BTT

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    28 years old
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    sounds like pig,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,sorry

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