Feelings while on Test E

[Blue_Dodger_Hat]

Hi, I want to hear your opinions.. My mind is stirring too much thinking about it. I started my first cycle 8 weeks ago and swore off all AAS related websites so as not to influence my mind in any way. Everyone reacts differently to gear and I wanted as real an experience as I could get, on my own, and with steady focus, which I have maintained faithfully. I feel that I'm mature enough to embark on this safely and make the most of it with the training, diet and rest.

Stats: 28, 6'4", 225lbs, 11% bf, training for 6 years, non-smoker, no drugs, no cycle experience, supplement protein and take multi-vitamins daily.

Week 1-12: Test E 500mg/week (2 x 250 thurs/sun split evenly)
PCT: 2 weeks after final shot, Nolva for 4 weeks @ 40/40/20/20

I've posted a picture of my gear in the proper forum, link here:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...57#post4254057

Now I know that everyone feels and reacts differently..and I've been patient, allowing my mind the proper nutrition and positive thoughts for growth, but I am beginning to have my doubts, which are counter productive. My training is definitely intense enough, at 5 days a week with proper technique and rest is not an issue. I've dedicated myself to this journey.

The question is, do you feel a definite 'difference' in your daily life while "ON" test? I do not have the side effects, spare a couple odd zits, and a definite increase in strength, which may or may not be related, but aside from that, I don't have any signs that my gear is legit. I hate to think that I have bunk gear, but do some people run Test *without* many sides and still make clean gains? I admit my weight is up approximately 10lbs and I *feel* fuller when I look in the mirror but don't physically notice a change in my being.

I've thought about taking blood tests right now, to see if my test levels are way up, and if they are...it would be an indication my stuff is real. Am I mistaking or would this be a sure way to determine it's validity?

At the end of the day, this is all an experience and I'll live and learn, and be ready and stronger for the next time... Now that I've gotten this off my chest, if anyone has experiences to share, I'd love to hear them

[nhl1]

To begin, hats off to you for being a dodger fan. I live in St. Louis and watching them annihiliate the Cubs was wildly entertaining.

If you've put on 10 lbs and you have an increase in strength than whatever you're putting in to your body is most likely something.

The first thing you should notice however is an increase in sex drive. At a first cycle of 500 mg a week you should be cocked and loaded 24/7.

So, if you don't have a raging increase in sex drive, it may not be test. Or, it could be test, but highly underdosed. Or, you could be just pumping oil and you have put on the 10lbs because of a placebo type effect that you are pushing harder.

I've never heard of the particular lab, but afterall, there are thousands.

Blood test is the only true way to tell if you're not sure. But there is plenty of bunk gear out there sorry to tell you.

I personally at 500mg a week can definitely tell a difference within a week. But thats just me. Are you running an AI? Have you changed your routines? Are you eating more? Are you doing cardio?

5 days a week is a lot to lift, are you allowing each muscle enough rest?

All of these have an effect Im sure you know.

[lovbyts]

VERY nice mature write up I have to admit and well written.

Personally I did not feel anything HUGE. My gonads pulled up some but not disappeared or shrank to raisins. LOL my libido was defiantly improved and I just felt better, more energy. My gains where nothing GREAT but very good.

I think the #1 way to tell is what your balls and libido so, it was a sure sign for me that it was real.

[nhl1]

Also, I know lots of people recommend the test only for a first cycle, but I've never really seen any great results out of any compound used by itself. Stacking is the way to go.

[Blue_Dodger_Hat]

I appreciate your replies. If anything, I did notice a difference in sex drive..definitely a good sign.

nhl1: I am not running an AI. I am eating more and changed my routine at week 6. However, I am not doing cardio (would this have a positive / negative effect?)

As for the lab, there are so many mixed reviews, and one can never be sure what they are using unless it is prescribed or tested. As you said, there are many bunk labs. I purposely try to stay away from others' opinions on labs because it usually will re-inforce whatever the user is already subconciously thinking.. If they think they're gear is bad, they will believe it even more, and if they think it's good, it would contribute to the placebo effect. It would be more beneficial keeping the mind at ease and allowing the gear to act out in the way it naturally would in the body, however good or bad it actually is, IMHO.

I will do a blood test and find out my results..to finally put an end to this guesswork

BTW: Could someone post the 'normal' range for testosterone and what a user of 500mg/week could potentially test at if everything was legit? I'd like to have some numbers to compare to.

[EatLiftSleep]

For me I definitely knew (whether this was on my head or not I don't know)
But my lifts were all up, i looked huge and felt like Superman......
that said I did gain around 21 pounds.

I believe if your gear is legit you should have no doubts, you will feel it working eventually. Your muscles will feel full and hard than they have ever been and you strength and endurance should be up. I also got a lot of back acne and my balls shrunk. (This is assuming your diet/training is up to scratch which it seems they are.)

[ironaddict69]

To answer your question, I do my shots in my Glutes (way more absorption) And my levels are 3,000 on 200 mg twice a week. I take 100 mg of nandrolone in each shot also.

[T_Own]

you're test levels would be through the roof. for someone your age i think ~1000 or so is about average for natural test numbers.

btw, i'm from philly. all i gotta say is too bad

[lovbyts]

To answer your question, I do my shots in my Glutes (way more absorption) And my levels are 3,000 on 200 mg twice a week. I take 100 mg of nandrolone in each shot also.

way more absorption, Why is that? I dont remember reading anything or seeing any studies the make those claims.

[BUYLONGTERM]

I definitely know when I'm on Test. More confident, more focused, and most of all, I am horny all the time. If your sex drive isn't through the roof, I'd be very skeptical about your gear.

[Blue_Dodger_Hat]

ironaddict: More absorbtion when doing glute shots? I've been rotating left bicep/left delt/right bicep/right delt and repeat.. Haven't done any shots in glutes/quads.. you figure there could be a difference in the amount being fully absorbed into the muscle? I'd like to hear more on this

[daem]

ironaddict: More absorbtion when doing glute shots? I've been rotating left bicep/left delt/right bicep/right delt and repeat.. Haven't done any shots in glutes/quads.. you figure there could be a difference in the amount being fully absorbed into the muscle? I'd like to hear more on this

Yes, it is proven that you absorb more of the gear when injecting into your glutes.

I don't remember the exact science, but each cycle that I run now with a longer ester, I generally never stray from my glutes. I've done it both ways, and can tell you my gains have always been best when hitting glutes.

Good luck.

[Almost Jacked 33]

ironaddict: More absorbtion when doing glute shots? I've been rotating left bicep/left delt/right bicep/right delt and repeat.. Haven't done any shots in glutes/quads.. you figure there could be a difference in the amount being fully absorbed into the muscle? I'd like to hear more on this

I have never heard of the glutes have more absortion. I rotate glutes and delts. If there is more absortion, I would like to know more also and see some sources to back your info please.

[daem]

The short answer is due to the high number of muscle fibers and a well networked fascia.

The drugs you inject have a larger surface area to be disperse, and therefore absorb better. Additionally, the blood supply to the glutes is very high given their size relative to other sites.

The thigh is the 2nd best place, and delts are 3rd.

I don't think I can explain any better, and I'm too tired to do research when you can find it on your own.

[lovbyts]

The short answer is due to the high number of muscle fibers and a well networked fascia.

The drugs you inject have a larger surface area to be disperse, and therefore absorb better. Additionally, the blood supply to the glutes is very high given their size relative to other sites.

The thigh is the 2nd best place, and delts are 3rd.

I don't think I can explain any better, and I'm too tired to do research when you can find it on your own.

Thank for the reply/input. Yeah I did a LOT of searching it looks like there is some difference but not significant enough for me to try to reach around to my ass and do it. LOL

[ironaddict69]

Well here is an actual study and a graph. Here we go!

If anyone is curious, My memory serves me that the 4 ml test was lower due to the fact that it was 25 mg/ml compared to 100. So that alone shows us higher concentrations do much more than just equaling the total.

Im sure you all will get it but the Phenyl-propionate ester spiked much higher due to less ester weight and more active hormone.

Ive done gluteal's ever since and yes my gains and sides spiked.

[lovbyts]

OK but is shows nothing for the quads only the Glutes and Deltoids.

[inky-e]

I noticed the whole "sense of well being" thing in my first cycle ever....since then its just business as usual...although the sex drive is undeniable! Quick note...on tren....I could easily kill you if you look at me wrong!!hahaha

[fit4ever180]

I noticed the whole "sense of well being" thing in my first cycle ever....since then its just business as usual...although the sex drive is undeniable!

Sense of well being for several weeks, but I was back to feeling normal after a few weeks of this sensation and also increased sex drive.

[SWOLLL]

I always knew I was on a cycle
1. SEX DRIVE, crazy horny constantly. Want to get into any and everything 24/7
2. Massive pumps much more so than normal!
3. Did I say Sex Drive
4. Oily skin

[Older lifter]

Well here is an actual study and a graph. Here we go!

If anyone is curious, My memory serves me that the 4 ml test was lower due to the fact that it was 25 mg/ml compared to 100. So that alone shows us higher concentrations do much more than just equaling the total.

Im sure you all will get it but the Phenyl-propionate ester spiked much higher due to less ester weight and more active hormone.

Ive done gluteal's ever since and yes my gains and sides spiked.

Thanks bro, learned something today.

[Older lifter]

On a straight test-e cycle i had a peak in sex drive around week 2 but have to say that it levelled out around week 5-6. However weights went up and a full feeling in the body both at the gym and in time off. Diffinate weight gains from about week 5.

[anabolictonic]

im just about to start week 6 of my test e cycle and havent noticed much mass .. was expecting to see it around start of week 5 but spent the last week not being allowed to lift weights with an eye infection !! nearly went insane!! but hopefully ill see em this week

[Gears]

Hey bro,

Last time I tried that UGL it was bunk, they re-sent more gear after I talked with them, but that was also bunk. I literally made no difference in gains between my "on" cycle and PCT. I wont be touching them again....

[ironaddict69]

OK but is shows nothing for the quads only the Glutes and Deltoids.

Well c'mon, Lets use common sense and realize that quads would be somewhere in the middle. Unless someone found a way to get the quad muscle they injected into bigger than their entire glute. Other mods have told me the same thing.

[Blue_Dodger_Hat]

Hey bro,

Last time I tried that UGL it was bunk, they re-sent more gear after I talked with them, but that was also bunk. I literally made no difference in gains between my "on" cycle and PCT. I wont be touching them again....

I'm starting to think I might be in the same boat... I haven't done the bloodtest yet to see what my levels are at after week 8..but I will finish up the 12 weeks and then see what happens during PCT..

I had been alternating bis/delts for the first 7 weeks and hit quads for the first time this week..the pain for the first day was absolutly vicious. Couldn't bend down or flex the muscle in any way..Incredible how bad it hurts in that spot!

[Kale]

Hi, I want to hear your opinions.. My mind is stirring too much thinking about it. I started my first cycle 8 weeks ago and swore off all AAS related websites so as not to influence my mind in any way. Everyone reacts differently to gear and I wanted as real an experience as I could get, on my own, and with steady focus, which I have maintained faithfully. I feel that I'm mature enough to embark on this safely and make the most of it with the training, diet and rest.

Stats: 28, 6'4", 225lbs, 11% bf, training for 6 years, non-smoker, no drugs, no cycle experience, supplement protein and take multi-vitamins daily.

Week 1-12: Test E 500mg/week (2 x 250 thurs/sun split evenly)
PCT: 2 weeks after final shot, Nolva for 4 weeks @ 40/40/20/20

I've posted a picture of my gear in the proper forum, link here:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...57#post4254057

Now I know that everyone feels and reacts differently..and I've been patient, allowing my mind the proper nutrition and positive thoughts for growth, but I am beginning to have my doubts, which are counter productive. My training is definitely intense enough, at 5 days a week with proper technique and rest is not an issue. I've dedicated myself to this journey.

The question is, do you feel a definite 'difference' in your daily life while "ON" test? I do not have the side effects, spare a couple odd zits, and a definite increase in strength, which may or may not be related, but aside from that, I don't have any signs that my gear is legit. I hate to think that I have bunk gear, but do some people run Test *without* many sides and still make clean gains? I admit my weight is up approximately 10lbs and I *feel* fuller when I look in the mirror but don't physically notice a change in my being.

I've thought about taking blood tests right now, to see if my test levels are way up, and if they are...it would be an indication my stuff is real. Am I mistaking or would this be a sure way to determine it's validity?

At the end of the day, this is all an experience and I'll live and learn, and be ready and stronger for the next time... Now that I've gotten this off my chest, if anyone has experiences to share, I'd love to hear them

In fact, apart from getting your gear tested, this is the only way you will know if your gear is real or not.

[lovbyts]

In fact, apart from getting your gear tested, this is the only way you will know if your gear is real or not.

I still think the shrinking ball sack is a pretty good sign that it is test, wouldnt you?

[Kale]

I still think the shrinking ball sack is a pretty good sign that it is test, wouldnt you?

Not at all, mine never hardly shrank at all. In fact I on on permanently and they arnt that much smaller than normal

[lovbyts]

Not at all, mine never hardly shrank at all. In fact I on on permanently and they arnt that much smaller than normal

Really? I defiantly noticed mine pulled up like when in cold water but I'm sure everyone reacts a little different.

[Blue_Dodger_Hat]

So I went and had a bloodtest done yesterday at the end of week 9. I will post the results when I receive them next week. Here's hoping for the best.

[blacspydr0]

im interested to see the results

[SilverTest]

SHITLOADS of energy , better memory , increase verbal fluency , You should feel horny 24/7 and be humping everything in sight , i personally for example dont sleep a lot when on , i would work all day , workout like an animal , have sex 8 times a day , and still sleep 5 hours and wake up strong energetic and pumped as hell , its a feeling of tremendous power. U feel strong physically and mentally above natural limits , i personally blow the f**k up on test , i mean really blow , i would put on like 20 to 25 lbs in 8 weeks time , and almost keep them all , i would loose the water weight afterwards, like 3 to 5 lbs .Thats my experience.

[ironaddict69]

Update us dude.

[chuckt12345]

I definitely know when I'm on Test. More confident, more focused, and most of all, I am horny all the time. If your sex drive isn't through the roof, I'd be very skeptical about your gear.

yea i feel awesome on test, my confidence and self being are alot higher. Feel more social and happier, i can actually go to a bar and not really drink and have a good time cause off cycle that would never happen.

[richtries]

SHITLOADS of energy , better memory , increase verbal fluency , You should feel horny 24/7 and be humping everything in sight , i personally for example dont sleep a lot when on , i would work all day , workout like an animal , have sex 8 times a day , and still sleep 5 hours and wake up strong energetic and pumped as hell , its a feeling of tremendous power. U feel strong physically and mentally above natural limits , i personally blow the f**k up on test , i mean really blow , i would put on like 20 to 25 lbs in 8 weeks time , and almost keep them all , i would loose the water weight afterwards, like 3 to 5 lbs .Thats my experience.

first test cycle coming up . . . yyyyeeeesssssssssssssss!!!!!!

[vishus]

i agree with all the above, in first week of cycle and feel like libido is up and workouts are unbeliveable, way more energy and focus. a lot of endorphins relasing it feels like haha a "positive" feeling 24/7 on this stuff (test cyp). all is good with test

[Blue_Dodger_Hat]

I got the test results from the lab in the mailbox today... not sure if this is a typical test, but it is very, very basic and lacking of any detailed info.

It shows the following:

TESTOSTERONE (T) Out Of Range: 58.1 Within Range: 10.0--30.00 nmol/L

Don't these tests usually show Free Test and Total Test? I don't know how to interpret this. Any experts out there care to offer advice? Thanks

[Kale]

I got the test results from the lab in the mailbox today... not sure if this is a typical test, but it is very, very basic and lacking of any detailed info.

It shows the following:

TESTOSTERONE (T) Out Of Range: 58.1 Within Range: 10.0--30.00 nmol/L

Don't these tests usually show Free Test and Total Test? I don't know how to interpret this. Any experts out there care to offer advice? Thanks

Lets just say the juice is working . Top of the range is 30.0 and you are at 58.1 which is almost double. Personally I think your gear is probably under dosed but none the less still viable

[Blue_Dodger_Hat]

Thanks for the reply Kale. Are there 'average' levels while on test cycles or does it completely vary based on the user (with concentrations/dosing times/etc being equal)? I'm wondering if the test was properly dosed, would the result come out much higher than 58.1, or is this completely arbitrary? Too bad they didn't give more detail in the lab report. I will ask for that a month after PCT when I do another test to check levels then.