2nd Cycle

[MattUK666]

Ok guys here is what my 2nd cycle looks like so far:

Weeks 1-12 Test E 750mg per week (front loading first week with 1000mg)

Weeks 1-10 Deca 400mg per week

Weeks 15 - 20 Nolvadex 40/40/40/20/20 and Provion...whats the best way to use this?

I also have Arimidex on hand for the cycle...whats the best way to take it?

Eating a clean diet, over 4000 calories per day.

Training as usual of 3/4 times per week.

Thanks

[Freakish]

give us some stats please

[10nispro]

need some stats and then some tweeking to the cycle...

[MattUK666]

25 years old.

5 foot 10

200 pounds

training for 4 years

first cycle was 15 weeks of test E.

[inky-e]

Ok guys here is what my 2nd cycle looks like so far:

Weeks 1-12 Test E 750mg per week (front loading first week with 1000mg)

Weeks 1-10 Deca 400mg per week

Weeks 15 - 20 Nolvadex 40/40/40/20/20 and Provion...whats the best way to use this?

I also have Arimidex on hand for the cycle...whats the best way to take it?

Eating a clean diet, over 4000 calories per day.

Training as usual of 3/4 times per week.

Thanks

I did the same cycle except with 500mg's of deca....gained 22lbs....the adex ....take it if you start to feel signs of gyno coming on...weird sensation or pain in pecs or nips...

[WARMachine]

Ok guys here is what my 2nd cycle looks like so far:

Weeks 1-12 Test E 750mg per week (front loading first week with 1000mg)

Weeks 1-10 Deca 400mg per week

Weeks 15 - 20 Nolvadex 40/40/40/20/20 and Provion...whats the best way to use this?

I also have Arimidex on hand for the cycle...whats the best way to take it?

Eating a clean diet, over 4000 calories per day.

Training as usual of 3/4 times per week.

Thanks

Why are you bumping the dose to almost 1G a week for only your second cycle.

Run Adex @.25mg EOD throughout the cycle.

And id do PCT like this.

Nolva - 20/20/20/20
Proviron - 50/50/25/25

[MattUK666]

Thanks for your reply buddy, I just coped that PCT into my file for my cycle, im setting it up tonight and working out the final maths of it.

I want to do a clean 750mg per week, last cycle I front loaded on the first week and it was fine, so I was just going to front load again...

With these doses, by what week will I start to feel the effects? At 750mg and 400mg will I still have to wait around 6 weeks to feel it?

And, the higher dose, will make me lose my hair right?

[MattUK666]

Bump

[10nispro]

How much are you going to frontload? And yes you might have to worry about hair loss.

[MattUK666]

I was going to do 1000mg on week 1, and then 750mg each week after that.

I didnt lose any hair on my first cycle....

[WARMachine]

Thats a dumb idea...

Why are you using 750mgs EW anyway?

You do know that higher doses doesnt mean higher gains.

It does increase sides though...

[MattUK666]

Ok I will stick to just 750mg per week with no frontloading.

Actually higher test does mean higher gains lol...

[MattUK666]

So this looks ok right? I really want to do it as one shot per week all together, I can handle it.

[SpiderRico]

wait wait wait your tring to fit all that gear in one shot a week? am I reading that right?

[WARMachine]

Ok I will stick to just 750mg per week with no frontloading.

Actually higher test does mean higher gains lol...

Really? Do you have articles backing this statement?

And by post #13 i can tell you dont have a clue what youre talking about.


You should be spilting injections throughout the week, not 1000mgs once a week.

[MattUK666]

I dont see the problem in one shot per week?

Infact for 500mg per week its totally fine to do one shot per week, infact thats exactly what I did on my 1st cycle.

Whats wrong with it?

[SpiderRico]

i might be assuming thing but you probly have a 250 mg test also your deca probly is 200mg per cc as well. If you wanted to run one shot that would be a 5cc injection

1 you shouldnt shoot more then 3cc in any single injection in my opinion and for everyone that has done more then a three cc shot they probly didnt like too much either.

2 most muscles if not any muscle cant take that much it will not be as affective plus the reason people also split long ester test in two injections as well as deca is due to sides because of the active lifes of the substance

[MattUK666]

Actually, my gear is in vials this time, not amps, so let me work this out lol...

For the test, i'll be doing 3ml's per week right, so I could draw up 1.5ml of test, plus 1ml of deca.

If I do that every saturday and wednesday, thats two shots per week.

Thats right, right?

[SpiderRico]

bingo so it will be an injection of 2.5.... also you can do a search on here for which injection sites are te best for bigger injections will help you out

[MattUK666]

Can I front load and do the whole 750mg and 400mg in one night, in two different shots in two different sites?

[SpiderRico]

i mean i wouldnt in my opinion, the only way i usually front load a cycle is either with starting it off with dbol or prop i like running that for the first 4 weeks, this is what i would do some people on here would tell you otherwise

[MattUK666]

I dont have anything to kick start my cycle this time.

Thats why ide like to just front load.

[SpiderRico]

i mean you can i dont really know how effective it is some say it works some say it doesnt due to no matter how much you put in your system its still going to take about the same time to kick in thats my opninion

[MattUK666]

Good point I see what you mean...but when it kicks in, if you have frontloaded, its going to kick in as more because you put more in, do you see?

[SpiderRico]

i see exactly what you say i mean you can some swear on it some dont good luck with whatever you decide