Cycle not for bulking! Want to look more leaner and harder! Don't want to lose size

**Kevinjg** · 10-15-2008, 05:54 PM

Hey guys haven't thrown a thread in for a while so It's about time i picked your brains! Needing a bit of help.

I've done a few cycles, all of them were really to bulk up. I'm happy with my size now, I don't mind adding a few more pounds but they have to be solid pounds! I want to look more harder, ripped and solid, (definition & shape)

I've done about 4 cycles,
Last cycle
Dianabol 50mg aday Weeks 1-5
Test E 750mg week, Weeks 1-16
Tren E 600mg week, Weeks 1-11

Pct Incuded Nolvadex , Proviron and Clomid! Ran PCT for around 6 weeks!

Other cycle I've always used Test!!! Other steroids such as Winstrol , Dbol , Ganabol/Equpoise, Deca , Clen .....Maybe another 1 or 2.

I'm 28 weigh around 185lbs, Height 5ft 9ish. I eat clean but never counted it for mg to mg!

SO guys any other questions fire away! All your opinions & answers will be muchly appreciated!

**magic32** · 10-16-2008, 09:58 AM

What exactly is your question?
Are you asking for a cutting cycle?

If so, you'll have to design your own centered around a few basic principles (no heavily aromatizing agents), clean diet (central), increased cardio output, and an ancillary lipotropic and/or thermogenic compound or two. Search for cutting cycles, put one together and we'll be glad to critique it.

Best to you.

**Bigmax** · 10-16-2008, 10:10 AM

agree^^^^^^^^^^

**Kevinjg** · 10-16-2008, 02:20 PM

More lean muscle then get ripped!

I'm thinking of going on a cycle for 6 months, I know it's a long time but each to there own.

Thinking of using Test E through just up and lower the doses throughout the cycle
Maybe use, Tren (i dont really get bad side effects just a little cough), Primo. Winstrol , Equpoise, Clen .

Maybe
Test E 750mg Week 1 - 12
Tren E 600mg Week 1 - 12
Test E 500mg Week 13 - 18
Primo 600mg Week 13 - 24
Equpoise 600mg Week 13-24
Winstrol 50mg aday Week 18 - 26
Test E 250mg Week 19 - 26
Clen Not sure how much, Week 26 through to and use with PCT!

Your thought??????

**Kevinjg** · 10-16-2008, 02:24 PM

Sorry--Gonna say I was only thinking of taking either Primo or Equpoise, not both! Unless u think otherwise???

**Alex Rodriguez** · 10-16-2008, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Kevinjg

Hey guys haven't thrown a thread in for a while so It's about time i picked your brains! Needing a bit of help.

I've done a few cycles, all of them were really to bulk up. I'm happy with my size now, I don't mind adding a few more pounds but they have to be solid pounds! I want to look more harder, ripped and solid, (definition & shape)

I've done about 4 cycles,
Last cycle
Dianabol 50mg aday Weeks 1-5
Test E 750mg week, Weeks 1-16
Tren E 600mg week, Weeks 1-11

Pct Incuded Nolvadex , Proviron and Clomid! Ran PCT for around 6 weeks!

Other cycle I've always used Test!!! Other steroids such as Winstrol , Dbol , Ganabol/Equpoise, Deca , Clen .....Maybe another 1 or 2.

I'm 28 weigh around 185lbs, Height 5ft 9ish. I eat clean but never counted it for mg to mg!

SO guys any other questions fire away! All your opinions & answers will be muchly appreciated!

if ur trying to cut or get a lean bulk going, stay at same weight, prolly tren and deca, with a low dose of test e or c

**rhino1** · 10-16-2008, 02:58 PM

whats wrong with prop, tren , winny or var?

**Kevinjg** · 10-16-2008, 03:08 PM

Prop I don't like injecting every days! thats why i prefer to go with the longer esters.
I love Tren .

Never tried Var as I take Winstrol and i love the results Tabs, I don'twant to be taking 2 orals! so 1 or the other guess?

**rhino1** · 10-16-2008, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Kevinjg

Prop I don't like injecting every days! thats why i prefer to go with the longer esters.
I love Tren .

Never tried Var as I take Winstrol and i love the results Tabs, I don'twant to be taking 2 orals! so 1 or the other guess?

...ed injects are awesome

BG · 10-16-2008, 03:23 PM

You can not bulk with any compounds, It matters on your diet mainly and how they aromatize.

Ive cut/lean bulked with cyp/deca /drol combo, was insane.

**Kevinjg** · 10-23-2008, 01:58 PM

Could I use a small does of Test E with a large amount of Tren E for example:
250mg Test E
600mg Tren E

I want to look more solid will also put together a good diet. I know the Tren and Test E wont kick in fr 5 weeks or so, WHat could I use as a kick start which will not put on too much water retention (bloat look)????

Thanks

**bene7422** · 10-23-2008, 11:41 PM

your best bet for a kick start then would be prop.you could get away with eod if u can't pin ed.

**Kevinjg** · 10-24-2008, 12:34 AM

Thats a possability.

After doing abit more research I was also thinking of maybe going for Anavar or Halo, How quick do the do they take to get into your system and start to work????

**Kevinjg** · 10-25-2008, 05:17 AM

Any other ideas???

**200byjune** · 10-25-2008, 09:15 AM

1-17 500mgs test e
1-15 600mgs tren e
1-15 700mgs eq
12-19 75mgs winny

**Stock** · 10-25-2008, 09:25 AM

I like sust, Mast, & Prop. Use the prop to jumpstart & finishing agent. Combine eod or e3d of the mast & sust with a clean diet and cardio and you should be set. You can cut or bulk on anything, but for me w/ long esters I bloat easier.