Masteron Winny tabs cycle without injectable Test?

[the fly]

Is there anyway I could get good results from a masteron (as the only injectable) maybe using winny tabs or Dbol tabs?
I know there are risks thith shutdown without test while taking masteron.
What other oral can I use besides test injectable?
Or is this a recipe for disaster?

[kaberle_15]

Most guys here say test is the base of all cycles and I tend to agree test should be used.

[T_Own]

also i don't get the point of using 2 dht's. its not as bad as what other people have done (eg tren only) but it would be better to add test. not to mention the gains that would give you with test added

[redz]

Masteron and dbol just dont sound right together, dbol causes bloat and Masteron is best used by people with very low bf so I dont see the point. Test is needed!

[jstraw428]

I definitely dont recomend the cycle, but bf% and water bloat have nothing to do with each other.......

A person with 3% bf, could still bloat themselves with dbol , but still have 3%bf......

[T_Own]

that is true, but simple tests like calipers don't really take water into consideration. unless its still dense, it'll get pinched some. not that its a big deal since water is easily lost.

[jstraw428]

if you leave the calipers clipped to the person for a couple of secs.....most of the water is pushed from the site being measured..... so it will still give as accurate a measurment as calipers can provide.....thats why i use an electro impedence test.....

[T_Own]

yeah thats definitely a more reliable method, but some people don't have access to one. i don't go to a real gym like with memberships and what not, so i haven't ever seen one but have used calipers many times.

i guess that would be true about pushing the water away. i've never really tried waiting when measuring, but for me it doesn't matter all that much