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[Mike111]

its my first cycle. ive done five shots with sus 250. and i still cant believe my eyes. ive gained 7kg. swear its amazing. i still have 19 amps left but i stopped taking. i have test enanthate and want to give it a go. just injecting my first now. im 86kg now aiming for 100+ of plenty muscle and hardly any fat gains. i have a nice diet going and im really amazed so far. working 10 times harder in the gym. so im thinking after i finish my cycle of enanthate i will start taking my nolva for about 4 weeks and use winstrol during that time aswell. i want to get a bit ripped too.

what do you guys reckon?

[redz]

You need to stop taking steroids you dont know what you are doing.

Stick to either Sustanon or Enanthate also your 7kg is not lean gain it is bloat. You need to wait 2 weeks after stoping enanthate before starting pct. A pct with winstrol is retarded and would keep you shut down.

[magic32]

its my first cycle. ive done five shots with sus 250. and i still cant believe my eyes. ive gained 7kg. swear its amazing. i still have 19 amps left but i stopped taking. i have test enanthate and want to give it a go. just injecting my first now. im 86kg now aiming for 100+ of plenty muscle and hardly any fat gains. i have a nice diet going and im really amazed so far. working 10 times harder in the gym. so im thinking after i finish my cycle of enanthate i will start taking my nolva for about 4 weeks and use winstrol during that time aswell. i want to get a bit ripped too.

what do you guys reckon?

Steroids (of any kind) should NOT be used during PCT, which stands for POST-Cycle-Therapy. Steroidal inclusion would be contradictory to the very nature of PCT. As indicated by the name, the cycle NEEDS to be completed!

Not knowing something this fundamental tells us that you require more study!!!

[helium3]

You need to stop taking steroids you dont know what you are doing.

Stick to either Sustanon or Enanthate also your 7kg is not lean gain it is bloat. You need to wait 2 weeks after stoping enanthate before starting pct. A pct with winstrol is retarded and would keep you shut down.

i second that motion!

[calgarian]

its my first cycle. ive done five shots with sus 250. and i still cant believe my eyes. ive gained 7kg. swear its amazing. i still have 19 amps left but i stopped taking. i have test enanthate and want to give it a go. just injecting my first now. im 86kg now aiming for 100+ of plenty muscle and hardly any fat gains. i have a nice diet going and im really amazed so far. working 10 times harder in the gym. so im thinking after i finish my cycle of enanthate i will start taking my nolva for about 4 weeks and use winstrol during that time aswell. i want to get a bit ripped too.

what do you guys reckon?

believe me bro do your reading first. It amazes me that it is that easy to get your hands on gear that anybody can get a hold of it.

You are playinng with your body just make sure you know what you are doing. Also just remember they are steriods not your underwear that you can change whenever you want.

DO ur research abefore u start sticking needles.

[T_Own]

Steroids (of any kind) should NOT be used during PCT, which stands for POST-Cycle-Therapy. Steroidal inclusion would be contradictory to the very nature of PCT. As indicated by the name, the cycle NEEDS to be completed!

Not knowing something this fundamental tells us that you require more study!!!

proviron?

[Reed]

Just a question but is this the same kid that was trying to do GH at like 19 or something. I remember he was on sus 250 as well, maybe I'm confused but I third the motion of stopping what your doing and doing more research

[Reed]

Yep that is the same guy, went back and reviewed his post, he is also 18 BTW

[redz]

18 is far too young.

[OH REALLY]

your cycle is reckond

[LATS60]

its my first cycle. ive done five shots with sus 250. and i still cant believe my eyes. ive gained 7kg. swear its amazing. i still have 19 amps left but i stopped taking. i have test enanthate and want to give it a go. just injecting my first now. im 86kg now aiming for 100+ of plenty muscle and hardly any fat gains. i have a nice diet going and im really amazed so far. working 10 times harder in the gym. so im thinking after i finish my cycle of enanthate i will start taking my nolva for about 4 weeks and use winstrol during that time aswell. i want to get a bit ripped too.

what do you guys reckon?

I reckon you don't have a clue what you are doing, you are taking sust and you want to stop and give enan a go,, it's all test man.

[Mulciber]

just plain scary

[Mike111]

thats exactly what i told my mate whos suppose to know everything. he goes run win with nolva to get ripped. i asked him but nolva is for after roids to get everything back to normal. he didnt agree.

im just asking guys i know what im doing and im 100% safe. about 1-2kg of my gains is bloat i think. coz im looking pretty ripped and my waist is reaching 32 for the first time. im 18 but im ready. finishing this cycle no matter what. but i want to know how do i take winstrol? do i stack with enanthate on the last weeks or use it alone after e? thanks. and yeh i still got these GH. dont have a clue what to do with em lol

[Mike111]

to grow! and at a much faster rate and improve all aspects of my goal and workout. to get stronger. more powerful faster quick recovery. i will reach my goals. now tell me why wouldn't i take it? my only concern is stunting my growth. but even if it comes down to that ill be okay. im tall enough my shoulders are deffffinately wide enough. i just want to train and get to my peak form as a boxer. u should understand if you have a goal in mind u will go through anything

[Mike111]

thanks for the opinion bro. now imagine i already got a good bulking diet going. been doin that for nearly a year and im on test. i reckon i can put on near 30+ pounds with the training im doing in the next 2 months. i know i can do it

[Mike111]

lol. being 18 my natural testosterone will be much quicker and with the nolva. if i lose gains im hoping its veryy minimal.

[CeeLo]

yes you may put 30lbs+ on BUT keeping it is a different story.

when you come off your going too see some loss in size -that is a fact,now when you start droping size your going to be like O SHIT,this is were the problems start -you will feel like shit on pct ,this will affect you training and diet at your young age -can you handdle it -

pct is not a nice time and if you dont grab you self bt the balls(if you have any left ) you can say by by to all your gains.

30+ lbs in 2 months, you gotta be kidding me. If anyone puts that much weight on in 2 months. I guarantee their belly will stick out way past their chest and you will be above 20% bodyfat.

[Older lifter]

Ohhhh dear....

[Mike111]

30+ lbs in 2 months, you gotta be kidding me. If anyone puts that much weight on in 2 months. I guarantee their belly will stick out way past their chest and you will be above 20% bodyfat.

r u serious? then you probably dont train enough or know people who train hard. my brother put on 39pounds in just two months of training on only sus. he is a tank!!

[Charger527]

there is no point worrying how much you put on in cycle its how much lean muscle mass you can retain. everyone bloats and/or puts on fat differently

[redz]

15 lean lb gains would be considered amazing for a cycle 30+lbs is just not reality.

[Mike111]

loll what do you mean impossible. are you serious?





first one is just after his cycle second is months after. he kept most of the muscle and i dont see much fat. how is it impossible? you can gain massive amounts of weight 40 is pretty high in gain but definately not impossible. and first cycle gains are the best of all cycles. if you can go hard out on your first then you can definately see big gains. impossible is nothing cuz. ill post pics when i finish my first cycle. ull believe me then

[Freakish]

thats exactly what i told my mate whos suppose to know everything. he goes run win with nolva to get ripped. i asked him but nolva is for after roids to get everything back to normal. he didnt agree.

im just asking guys i know what im doing and im 100% safe. about 1-2kg of my gains is bloat i think. coz im looking pretty ripped and my waist is reaching 32 for the first time. im 18 but im ready. finishing this cycle no matter what. but i want to know how do i take winstrol? do i stack with enanthate on the last weeks or use it alone after e? thanks. and yeh i still got these GH. dont have a clue what to do with em lol

bro i dont wanna call you out but you were the kid who injected a compound that you didnt know anything about,it was tribolin 75,lucky for you it isnt much of anything.

Putting compounds in your body you have no knowledge about is far from knowing what you are doing and being safe,people plan their cycle for months before they start,they stick to it and with proper diet and training they get great results.

Now that being said you have started a cycle why dont you finish it properly do your pct and do some serious research on your next cycle.yes you want to try all these different compounds now,its like a kid in a candy store,but bodybuilding is a lifestyle and it would be wise to take everything slowly,do you really wanna have to be injecting 2000mg of test a week by the time you are 28 to see results?i think not.so slow down,learn,your body takes a lifetime to perfect.

r u serious? then you probably dont train enough or know people who train hard. my brother put on 39pounds in just two months of training on only sus. he is a tank!!

now that statement is a little ridiculous bro 39 pounds is around 17kgs in 2months,your muscles can not possibly grow that quickly,naturally around 2 to 3pounds a month is very good,on juice id say 6 to 8 pounds is unbelievable(im not talking water or fat),no doubt your brother looks pretty good,but if he picked up 17kgs then he was really really tiny to start with

[OH REALLY]

r u serious? then you probably dont train enough or know people who train hard. my brother put on 39pounds in just two months of training on only sus. he is a tank!!

Oh Really

[LATS60]

Oh Really

Yea he's *ank, poor guys dislexic too.

[Lach01]

Yea he's *ank, poor guys dislexic too.

come on lats lay of the dislexia am i as well, lol

i dont know why people dont listen to guys who obiviolus know what they are talking about i was told take this and get huge when i was 18/19 and learnt the hard way you dont it takes time and dedication, you can build a house with 50men quickly but if you dont have the cement to go with it, it's gona fall back down.

But i'd love to see the before and after pictures once you have finished your course cos god dam 30kgs is gona look impresive and will eat this thread if you do.

[Reed]

Who does this kid respond to in some of his posts. he responds to imaginary questions.

Look at this thread, i only see my reply and he is replying to questions that aren't even asked: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=363092

[Mulciber]

little side note.. dude in them pics dont look real happy does he.. lol
cheer up brutha..

[Rugger02]

Another thread doomed to the lounge....

[DrTY]

first picture is a jail shot so i can imagine he would have trained alot before he hit a stack inside. after all thats what jail is a big ass gym.
anyways my opinion if ur under 21 get the **** needle out of ur hand.
if u wanna be able to have kids someday without defects and other shit stop hitting the juice now and start training natural.
perfect example of steroid abuse. u shouldnt take more than you need and given your age u dont need any. substituting one test for another one is pointless if ur already 5 weeks into a blend of test.
stana with pct is another no go.
pct is done on its own with a bit of a change in diet.
anyways whatever u decide to do man good luck but still read up on it.
you got the gear in hand doesnt mean you have to use it.
its not going anywhere.
good luck hopefully the words of felow forum members and myselfs inspire u to practice bodybuilding the right way.

[OH REALLY]

I should have never looked at those pictures of you brother. iv been having nightmares ever since. But i keep telling my self its not real.

[thaiboxerfr]

your 18 dude lol... thats all i have to say... not much else :\ 99 percent of 18 year old are MORONS.. and the 1 percent that arent... are to busy in med school at the age of 18 to care about roids :-X

u in med school?