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10-19-2008, 01:51 AM #1
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First Time Cycle: Need your Input!
Hey guys,
I've looking into starting my first cycle as soon as I figure everything out. I am 24 years old, 5'9 and weigh 160 pounds. I have been working out on and off for the last 2 years. The reason that I've been on and off is because of University exam months and finals which made it impossible for me to even leave the library. Now I know what you're thinking... if i dont have the time to consistently train, then Im not ready for steroids . But the thing is, Ive finally graduated, with a steady job, and now I have a lot more free time to work out consistently. I don't want to waste anymore time. My goals are not to develop a massive steroid look, I just want to gain lean muscle and eventually get ripped, but gaining mass is the primary objective right now. I am wondering if 1 cycle will be enough to "kick start" me towards the right direction. I am very dedicated, and will continue a hard routine afterwards, with the right diet plan of course.
In addition, I have around 15% body fat (guessing: I have a flat stomach, but cant see abs, maybe a 2 pack ..lol). Also I havent hit the gym in 5 months and lost most of my muscles.. I am considering working out a month or 2 to gain some of it back before I start the cycle.
This is what I'm looking at:
Weeks 1-12 test e 500mg/week - injections 3.5 days apart
Weeks 1-4 Winstrol 50mg/day for a kick start
I dont want to use dbol because it is much more expensive. Also is it better to use deca instead of winstrol at around 500mg/week for 12 weeks (Im not too sure about this)?
Now, PCT starting week 13:
Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva
Should I run estrogen protection while on the cycle? Im not sure if I require it.
Lastly, I just want to say that my goal is only to do 1 cycle... so I really want as much of a gain as I can get, then go back to my natural routine. On average, with a hard routine and great diet, how many pounds of muscle do you then one can potentially gain?
Thanks for reading my post guys! Looking forward to your input.Last edited by shynee; 10-19-2008 at 01:57 AM.
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10-19-2008, 02:14 AM #2
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Post your diet, with those stats and your lack of workout program you are no where near ready to start a cycle dude.
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10-19-2008, 02:34 AM #4
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my goals are not just for cutting yet, I plan to do that on my own after the cycle. I want to gain muscle through the cycle , BUT i dont want to become massive. I just want lean muscle at the end of the day. For the looks of it, seems like Im not ready. I guess Ill workout for a continious 4-6 months before I start the cycle then.
Thanks for the advice.
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if u really wanna bulk naturally, just eat:
meat -steak chicken
potatoes
milk
alot of it and everyday... and then be srue to do cardio and take a multivit
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10-19-2008, 03:04 AM #6
If you dont want to be "massive" and your not training for sport or something then your best to stay natrual and not risk any complications. the goals you have set are not hard to reach you just have to work.
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10-19-2008, 03:13 AM #7
160lbs and 5'9? You don't need AAS, you need a proper diet + training routine
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10-19-2008, 04:47 AM #8
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10-19-2008, 05:55 AM #9
I agree with charger 527. I understand you want to get ripped and lean, but if all you want is to do one cycle and you dont do sports or compete, i think its best to accomplish your goals naturally. Just hit the gym hard and focus on diet
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10-19-2008, 10:27 AM #10
good to step back and thinkabout making modification.
and remember: Success is a journey not a destination.
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