really long cycle.....??

[Blooddraine]

just curious, what are some of the side effects of prolonged aas use? like two 12wk cycles of test after one another with a 3-4wk bridge between?? assuming the user is relatively young like age 25. Thx guys!

[........]

just run a 24 weeker with some hcg in there and an ai and make sure you have a good solid pct and am sure you will fully recover.

as for sides this will depend on the person.

[mx3]

just curious, what are some of the side effects of prolonged aas use? like two 12wk cycles of test after one another with a 3-4wk bridge between?? assuming the user is relatively young like age 25. Thx guys!

stats?

[Blooddraine]

well i was just asking wasnt really considering it for myself at this point and time.... just want to know what could possibly go wrong with doing this, and will the gains outweigh the adverse effects??

[frank12391]

just run a 24 weeker with some hcg in there and an ai and make sure you have a good solid pct and am sure you will fully recover.

as for sides this will depend on the person.

I'll have to disagree with this strongly. Your gonna be running AAS for 6 months. I would break it up into 2 12 week cycles & incorporate HCG. Firstly, get your bloods done b4 you start so you know where you should be after P.C.T. Do a long ester cycle for 12 weeks & include your HCG with your pct followed by bloods again & I would not start another 12 weeker until your bloods are back to where they were. Then give your body at least 6 months to recover. I would base the HCG around your PCT regime. There are plenty of HCG options for your PCT in the PCT forums. Go read up. If you don't have a lot of experience with AAS forget about bridge cycles / doses, extra long cycles. Long term you can do a lot of damage. Your test can remain borderline to low for a long period which can cause a host of problems, infertility, low libido, bone density problems, lowered mood, depression

[........]

are you just posting what other have said?

show me the studies were long cycle can DO YOU ALOT OF DAMMAGE?

what dammage are you talking about here?

there seems to be alot parioting going on these days.

have you every run along cycle?

long cycle can give solid real gains rather that bloat that 12 weekers can/do

[PT]

i would just run them together instead of taking a pointless 3 week break. just run about .25mgs of armidex and make sure your running hcg with it. as for you doing a 24 weeker, i doubt you need it but thats your decision

[frank12391]

are you just posting what other have said?

show me the studies were long cycle can DO YOU ALOT OF DAMMAGE?

what dammage are you talking about here?

there seems to be alot parioting going on these days.

have you every run along cycle?

long cycle can give solid real gains rather that bloat that 12 weekers can/do

I have actually in my newby days b4 learning something here. I can tell you that it will screw your reproductive system & give you long term parathiroid problems. Depending on what you're abusing, it can cause liver probs too. Low HDls, high Ldls which can cause circulatory problems if you don't know what you're doing. Long term AAS use without regard to blood work is dangerous not to mention usless after 3 months anyway. Thats why we cycle dude.

Have you ever heard of a formal study involving bodybuilders & long cycles? This is it. real life data. It's here bro, just ask. This is where you'll find more experimental data than any educational institution. You can put a positive spin on it if you like, if that makes you feel better. I'm not saying to not use it, just that you shouldn't take AAS use lightly. Maybe people are trying to tell you something if you think you are hearing the same message. (parroting) By writing a thread, you are asking questions & puting yourself out there for scrutiny & opinion. If you don't like what you're hearing then don't ask. Why don't you just start cruising on 100mg test ew right now for the rest of your life cause I can see that's where you're heading.

Right now, I'm trying to fix my BMD which was caused by incorrect use of AAS

[Banelord]

I'm with frank on this one, why would u risk a 24 week cycle? I'm going to call u a lier and u never did a 24 week cycle and also never did a 8 week cycle of drol. I think you want to come to this form and give out bad advice and anyone that listin to you will suffer, well if they do listin to u then they deserve what they get anyways...there I said it. I bet your going to come back with something ah? Ah who cares.

[Blooddraine]

so the general consensus here is that an extremely long cycle simply isn't worth the risk? the reason why i ask is because a friend of mine just ran a test e cycle and hated it (prolly fake gear) and wanted to run a test sustanon cycle right after... best advice is to just wait??

[rock75]

just curious, what are some of the side effects of prolonged aas use? like two 12wk cycles of test after one another with a 3-4wk bridge between?? assuming the user is relatively young like age 25. Thx guys!

just run a 24 weeker with some hcg in there and an ai and make sure you have a good solid pct and am sure you will fully recover.

as for sides this will depend on the person.

one of the major side effects with running a prolonged cycle is that your natural production system may ultimately NOT "fully recover" as "........" says. No one here can assure you that you will not severly damage your natural system; and as he also says sides depend on the person.

[rock75]

are you just posting what other have said?

show me the studies were long cycle can DO YOU ALOT OF DAMMAGE?

what dammage are you talking about here?

there seems to be alot parioting going on these days.

have you every run along cycle?

long cycle can give solid real gains rather that bloat that 12 weekers can/do

I ask the same of you

[daem]

Law of diminishing returns bro. You'll need more gear to get the same results possibly even in the same cycle.

It's not like if you stayed on year round you could continue to grow to be as big as a house...There are limits that can not be surpassed, and therefore, it makes it very difficult to justify.

The natural test production issue is the most important piece, however. If you damaged your natural test production, you'll lose muscle, gain fat, and have more estrogen circulating in your body unless you were on HRT for life.

Remember the duration...FOR LIFE.

[Blooddraine]

sweet.. thx a lot guys!!

[bigguy20]

ill have to chime in here and be the first to say...i have run a long cycle starting last year (may 2007) i ran test and tren and i even ran tren for about 10 weeks, then came off the tren for 2 months and went back on the tren for another 10 weeks and have done that since then right up to now, while still running test the entire time...i only took 2, 6 week breaks since then and i have to say ive had my best gains running my gear that way than just hitting 10 week cycles with 3 months off. i found that when i cycled like that i just couldnt keep decent gains for the life of me, i flattened right out after about 6 weeks off. i have been fine so far, oh and i forgot to mention during my last 6 week break i got my wife pregnant and were having a healthy little girl in about a month from now...so within 6 weeks of being off cycle it seems my test levels went back to normal enough to get her pregnant, and i felt just fine while i was off.. so a total of 12 weeks off on a one year long cycle didnt mees me up at all. i guess to each thier own and everyone reacts differently to the juice...guhys at my gym that compete dont go off the juice for 3-4 myears at a time. they seem fine so far...also dont all bodybuilders stay on cycle all the time? i couldnt imagine jay cutler doing 12 week cycles and going off for 12 weeks.
im not knocking anyone here and im NOT by any means saying this is the ruight way to be on cycle but i just wanted to simply state that i cant achieve my gains that i want without being on cycle like this.