Stopping cycle and starting pct

[MMH]

OK Fellas,ive come off my first cycle after 8 weeks on the advice of fellow more knowledgeable members as it was a bad first cycle(250mg Sus/100mg Deca ew).i stopped a week ago so am just making sure of a few things.

1.Start pct(Nolva/Clomid) 2 weeks after last shot.
2.Rest off for 10 weeks in total from day of last shot.
3.Keep diet and training up with plenty of cardio
4.Start 2nd cycle after 10th week.

ive gained about 14 pounds from this first effort so am not totally dissapointed just hope i can keep some of it, so can anyone confirm the above are correct,just dont wanna f***k this up any more than it has been already.

[Mulciber]

you wait 3 weeks after both deca and sust to start pct.
i go by the time on time off rule ( from first shot to end of pct) before i start up again and thats if bloodwork shows everything is in check.

[peachfuzz]

very intelligent of you to stop your cycle and to do it properly. im not sure of the circumstances but if reputable members are advicing you to stop and you are listening i commend you for that. others should follow your lead.

you start pct 21 days after last inject as mentioned above.

general rule is cycle + post cycle = time off.
in your case that is 8(cycle length) + 3(wait time) + 4(post cycle) = 15 weeks off

diet and training always....cardio dictated by goals.

[MMH]

Thanks for the replies fellas,Peachfuzz the circumstances were i got some bad advice from a mate who i now know didnt have a great deal of knowledge and started the cycle thinking i was doing the right thing luckily i found this great site and forum and soon saw it was the wrong 1st cycle etc after posting it up on here,just one other thing about the pct,how long should i run it for and at what dosage i think it should be

Nolva 20mg ed
Clomid 25mg ed

Just wanted to make double sure of everything

[Mulciber]

id run the clomid at 50 with the nolvadex.. 30 days

[MMH]

Nice one for that Mulciber,like i say hopefully after this i can have a good 2nd cycle and get the full benefits from it,but at least ive got more experience and learned somethin from the mistakes made in this one which is what lifes all about sometimes,will certainly be fully prepared for the next one,like the saying goes,
Fail to Prepare,Prepare to Fail.

[MercyDog]

should have stayed on and doubled up, but hey what do I know. "knowledgeable members"???????

[peachfuzz]

im sensing some hostility.

[MercyDog]

none at all just why take a blended 250 ew and after 8 shut down and go on pct??? he's got the gear to double up! And pct is harsh, been there TONS of times. All the talk about unstable blood levels is nothing compared to going on Nolva. Nolva is anything but stable hormone levels. Basically, he's shut down with minimal results, 1/2 in a weak cycle,,,,,,question? Balzout or PCT?

[MercyDog]

having said that its best not to take steroids...........

[peachfuzz]

ya i agree but like i said i wasnt aware of the circumstances never saw any other threads.

[MercyDog]

yea he posted he can double and go another 8, actually it was 500t/400d he could run for 8 more but got advice to pct now

[MMH]

Sorry Fellas,think the confusion was caused by the last thread i put up asking if i should stop or not and i basically got three answers which were:

1.Stop the cycle with minimal gains,pct and prepare and research properly for the next one.

2.Carry on as you are, on the same dosage ,length 12 weeks as planned etc

3.double the dose and go to 10 weeks then cease the Deca and shoot Sus alone weeks 10-12 and throw in some dbol mid cycle

As i said in the other thread was a bit of a dilemma ,my fault for putting myself in the position in the first place,first thought was to take option 3 but after putting some thought into it decided for option 1 which seemed the best thing to do in the circs,still dont know if its the right choice.

[MMH]

Think it was DAEM"S advice to stop ,do pct ,save my money and research properly before starting any future cycle,he struck me as pretty clued up ,not to say anyone else isnt i suppose its just a matter of opinions like a lot of things in life

[Mulciber]

its six of one half a dozen of the other.. continue what your were doing and maybe come away with a little something.. bang up the doses and run it longer but most likely would have to get more gear, or cut your loses wind er up and prepare to run a proper cycle..

[MMH]

ive already got the gear to up the dose and run for 12/14weeks just couldnt see the logic in that when the general opinion is that a Sus/Deca cycle is not a good one for a first run at it,thats mainly the reason i decided to knock this one on the head and sort out properly for a second cycle