My cycle

**OH REALLY** · 10-21-2008, 07:34 PM

I'm using
sus 250 eod
600mg of eq weekly
300mcg of cjc+
400mcg of ghrp-2
b12 complex eod
loving my gains been on for a month and feeling great
this is my 4th cycle and its been a long time since my last
my diet is coming a long but i do cheat some times
Cardio not so good its hard because i work so much(bla bla bla)
but i do have some Questions?????
1.....What ant E should i be using for my cycle and should i change that ant E
for pct????
2.....What is the best way to prepare for my pct?? ( i under stand the basics)
3.....Do the experienced users the experienced users please only the experienced users NOT SOME ONE JUST LOOKING TO GIVE ADVICE JUST the experienced users have any advice for me.
Just in case you need to know
250 pounds
5,10
high bf
12 year of traing
and no offense to the new Bs but i wouldn't be on this site if i wanted bad/your advice.

**WARMachine** · 10-21-2008, 08:28 PM

That seems like quite an advanced cycle bro...

Since you have high BF% it wouldnt hurt... Adex is my personal choice.

A good PCT will include

Nolva
An AI (like Aromasin )
Clomid
And possibly hCG .

btw, that chick is fine as hell in your avy...

**inky-e** · 10-21-2008, 08:32 PM

Your stats kinda concern me...the high BF thing...but whatever...I've always liked and have had good results with adex and nolva in pct and as far as "ON" cycle gyno problems...adex works for me. Out of curiosity what are your goals and expectations for this cycle?

**JiGGaMaN** · 10-21-2008, 08:44 PM

I think you may want to consider letro rather than arimidex . arimidex will bring your estrogen down about 50% but that might not be enough given the amount of test.

**OH REALLY** · 10-22-2008, 06:03 AM

btw, that chick is fine as hell in your avy...[/QUOTE]

thank you Im very lucky

My goals for the cycle are becoming leaner and stronger and just over all looking better

after my last cycle i had a 6pack at 190pounds but i started off with a lower bf

im going to be strict with the cardio starting today

i just orderd clomid
nolvadex
arimidex
from lion
i have some letro already
do you really think i need hcg ??
and how should i stack this???
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sus needs to be takin eod do you think i should cut back on the eq
i just thought that eqs sides were low so 600mg would be fine
thank you guys
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And new BEs when i want to grow tits i will ask you for advice...

**LATS60** · 10-22-2008, 07:54 AM

HCG is not necessary, but for aesthetic puposes yo could take it if you wish.
You could also use while waiting to start PCT to give the plums a kickstart.
Sust does not to be shot EOD, 2xwk will keep plasma test levels stable enough to avoid any sides.

**jamyjamjr** · 10-22-2008, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by LATS60

HCG is not necessary, but for aesthetic puposes yo could take it if you wish.
You could also use while waiting to start PCT to give the plums a kickstart.
Sust does not to be shot EOD, 2xwk will keep plasma test levels stable enough to avoid any sides.

sust should be shot eod... this is what most people say

**LATS60** · 10-22-2008, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by jamyjamjr

sust should be shot eod... this is what most people say

I don't care what most ppl say, iv'e been running for over 20yrs mate.
What i don't know about the pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of sust isn't worth knowing, no disrespect freind.

**OH REALLY** · 10-22-2008, 10:30 AM

so hcg is just for the testicles

**LATS60** · 10-22-2008, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by OH REALLY

so hcg is just for the testicles

Basically yes, it mimics LH and stops shrinkage.

**OH REALLY** · 10-22-2008, 01:30 PM

Stops shrinkage to late for that

**godkilla** · 10-23-2008, 02:39 AM

cycle looks good. you could shoot the sust twice a week to cut down on the number of times your pinning yourself. other than that, hows long you running it for?

**OH REALLY** · 10-23-2008, 05:32 AM

I was going to run it for 12weeks what is a good run time
does pct count as run time?
and does pct count as time off?

**OH REALLY** · 10-26-2008, 02:05 PM

bump

**godkilla** · 10-26-2008, 05:35 PM

id say 12 weeks min with the eq. most people include the pct in there time on when using the time on = time off method.

**OH REALLY** · 10-26-2008, 06:43 PM

Ok so 12 week cycle + 4 week pct = 4 months on i will need 4 months off that sucks then how do people do 3 cycles a year?

**WARMachine** · 10-26-2008, 07:26 PM

They cheat and do more...

That time on = time off BS is just a rule of thumb.

The only sure fire way is to do bloodwork...

btw, you need to run the EQ for a minimum of 12wks...

If youre gonna do it, run it for more than that...

**OH REALLY** · 10-27-2008, 05:27 AM

More then that no problem how much longer?

**hankdiesel** · 10-27-2008, 09:38 AM

eq is a very weak compound from my experience. I'll never run it again due to the dose needed to see gains.

**OH REALLY** · 10-27-2008, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by hankdiesel

eq is a very weak compound from my experience. I'll never run it again due to the dose needed to see gains.

What dose were you using?

**Lemonada8** · 10-27-2008, 09:54 AM

im going to be strict with the cardio starting today

i just orderd clomid
nolvadex
arimidex
from lion
i have some letro already
do you really think i need hcg ??
and how should i stack this???
/////////////////////////////////
sus needs to be takin eod do you think i should cut back on the eq
i just thought that eqs sides were low so 600mg would be fine
thank you guys
///////////////////////////////
And new BEs when i want to grow tits i will ask you for advice...

u should only need letro if u wanna use a anti-e on cycle, as for pct u can use clomid and nolva and ull be fine... and HCG does help in PCT, ur nuts get fuller and when i did it, i didnt seem as lathargic after stopping the test for that first week...

how did ur bf get so high? u stated u had a 6pack at 190, abut now 250? hope u dont hurt urself

**OH REALLY** · 10-27-2008, 11:47 AM

My thyroid went to shit the doctor thougt i was fighting deprestion. so thats what he treated me for this was going on for 2 years then he checked my thyroid and he put me on meds. for that and took me off the antidepresants that i never needed i got fat during the time he was treating me wrong i put on 60 pounds. a simple blood test is all i needed. but thats all taking care of .

**Lemonada8** · 10-27-2008, 12:40 PM

damn! that sucks! sry to hear that! best of luck losin it

**OH REALLY** · 10-27-2008, 12:47 PM

Lost 10 pounds since i started my cycle with just diet and small amounts of cardio

**ALWAYSFIT** · 10-27-2008, 08:15 PM

I am starting my first cycle of test how much should I be doing. I have been working out for 4 years 5 - 6 days a week.When I start I plan on working out regulary for 6 days a week.

**OH REALLY** · 10-28-2008, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by ALWAYSFIT

I am starting my first cycle of test how much should I be doing. I have been working out for 4 years 5 - 6 days a week.When I start I plan on working out regulary for 6 days a week.

This thread is about my cycle thats why i named it my cycle if you want advice about your cycle you should start your own thread but for now back off mine.......
O.K. back to my cycle i just added hgh176-191 frag at 400mcg before bed to help lose weight.

**OH REALLY** · 10-29-2008, 02:38 PM

Bump

**OH REALLY** · 10-29-2008, 05:06 PM

Cardios been better been doing 30 min. eod

**UncleD** · 10-29-2008, 05:19 PM

keep up the good work bro!

**OH REALLY** · 10-29-2008, 05:25 PM

I have another question how many bottles of nolva and clomid will i need from lion for my pct

**OH REALLY** · 10-30-2008, 03:04 PM

bump

**Lemonada8** · 10-30-2008, 05:47 PM

1 each

**fit4ever180** · 10-30-2008, 11:25 PM

For how long and at what dose (s) are you running the hgh? I'm assuming you're on pyramiding type regimen (i.e. 2iu/ed wk 1, 3iu/ed wk2,.....etc.)? Just curious?

**OH REALLY** · 10-31-2008, 07:46 AM

Its the frag 176-191 that im on and i take 400 mcg before bed every night

**Flex-Appeal** · 10-31-2008, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by LATS60

HCG is not necessary, but for aesthetic puposes yo could take it if you wish.
You could also use while waiting to start PCT to give the plums a kickstart.
Sust does not to be shot EOD, 2xwk will keep plasma test levels stable enough to avoid any sides.

I agree and disagree

1. I am a fan of HCG and think it is a great bonus to include in every cycle even when a 19nor is not present.
2. We have been through this but i think the OP is correct in shooting eod not 2xweek. Even if your blasma plasma lvl's are correct, 99% of the time gains are superior in the eod injects.
But as you said i have done the 2x week injects and got pretty good gains and sides were low besides edema.

**fit4ever180** · 10-31-2008, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by OH REALLY

Its the frag 176-191 that im on and i take 400 mcg before bed every night

Nice bro... That peptide seems to show a lot of promise from what I've been reading about it... Good luck

**OH REALLY** · 10-31-2008, 11:57 AM

thank you just got under 250 lost 10 pounds

**Lemonada8** · 10-31-2008, 12:13 PM

Do u really think that the peptide frag helped u lose that weight? or more of diet and cardio and no more of those meds?

**JiGGaMaN** · 10-31-2008, 12:39 PM

Oh really?

**OH REALLY** · 10-31-2008, 01:05 PM

I think that hgh 177-191 frag does not work (for me at least.)
But on the flip side the 176-191 frag has been great so far
and i just got off the cjc and ghrp i will cycle them.
So at this point i will be off them for 6 weeks and then back on for another 12 weeks just in time for my PCT.
But i will continue the hgh frag 176-191 until i am below 10% body fat.
What do you think about that and yes JiGGaMan OH REALLY

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