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realistically, how long can you run clen for before facing serious or permenant health issues?
what I want to do is bulk as much as possible until mid feb. I expect to b around 210-215 with no more than 12-14% bf. at that point I will be running clen one week on one week off along with a clean, low cal diet and cardio 4-6 days a week. I will b using bene on my off weeks. my goal is 200-205 at 7% by summer.
thank u for ur input.
i believe almost indefinitely, i just put in a formula in excel accounting for a 36 hour half life and here is what a one month cycle could look like in terms of the amount of mcg still present, btw, i started at 120mcg/day and used that every other weekQuote:
Originally Posted by 48volts
120
200
253.3333333
288.8888889
312.5925926
328.3950617
338.9300412
225.9533608
150.6355738
100.4237159
66.94914393
44.63276262
29.75517508
19.83678339
133.2245223
208.8163482
259.2108988
292.8072659
315.2048439
330.1365626
340.0910417
226.7273612
151.1515741
100.7677161
67.17847738
44.78565159
29.85710106
19.90473404
this is very rough and i need to double check the formula but these should be close
btw, i would look into ketotifen fumarate if you were going to be running this for a prolonged period
I would appreciate a little clarification on the numbers. I understand the concept of half-life; however, in relation to clen, I'm not sure I understand the significance of the above numbers.
checking your bp is more important then this. as it has been stated already that the damage to the LV is in relation to your BP checking your bp can give you what should be your highets mcg dose.
bro it dosent have to be all that complicated in my opinion.im not shure what phates #'s mean but if your gonna do it one week on one week off then you should be fine running it as long as you like.if your gonna use benedryl on the off weeks then you might as weel run it longer than one week at a time. most do 2 on 2 off without the beny.i ran it for 16 weeks straight using benedryl every 3rd week(while still taking clen)and had very good results.im still here with know problems post clen.i felt by running it for a longer time that it had very good anti-catabolic effects.i feel i even gained muscle durring that time but i have no mesurment to back up this claim as my goals were to cut up.i didnt experience any high BP from it and constantly checked this throught my cycle for peace of mind.(just thought id throw that out there in case you where curious)good luck
The reason I'm running it one on/one off is because I believe my body gets used to substances rather quickly. I did clen one time for two weeks straight, working my way up from 60mcg to 120mcg. By the second week I wasn't really feeling the same effects as the first week. It's the same with everything else also, like N.O. Explode, or Creatine, or any supp I take, my body just builds a tolerance quickly. Therefore, I figured the best way around it is to do one on/on off and keep shocking the system to make it work.
a good way to tell if its still effective is to find your base body temp before you start takeing it then take your temp everyday at the same time after you ingest your dose(wait at least an hour or so after you take it). if your temp spikes .5 -1 degrees than it is still working regardless of wether you feel any sides or not.i dont gett much of the shakes after a while myself but i know it is still working cus i monitor it.
sorry, i'll clarify what the numbers mean in a second, but they are right, blood pressure is a good estimate of when you should stopQuote:
Originally Posted by Phate
the above numbers are the amount of clen left in your system starting at day 1 and a dose of 120mcg, for example
120 this is the day 1 dose
200 this is the amount in your system after the day 2 dose
253.3333333
288.8888889
312.5925926
328.3950617
338.9300412 it peaks on the 7th day and starts declining because of the half life
225.9533608
150.6355738
100.4237159
66.94914393
44.63276262
29.75517508
19.83678339 this is roughly the amount left in your system the day before you start taking the clen again
at what point should I worry about blood pressure? what is too high?
benadril/ketofin will help it work longer/better research itQuote:
Originally Posted by 48volts
ask your doc what bp is to high for you 2 haveQuote:
Originally Posted by 48volts