I read on a site that tomaxifen will increase testosterone by %150....
Is that true??
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I read on a site that tomaxifen will increase testosterone by %150....
Is that true??
in a word, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrono31
LOL..
them drugz will only help elevate lowered test levels by increasing LH levels and therefore increasing test levels, if for some reason you have secondary hypogandism, it could potentially increase it by 150%. But as far as it being helpfull for the average bloke, then NO, wont do jack scrap to increase yer test production
^^ thats not entirely true, for an average person it could do SOMETHING, but something small at best. 150% is very far fetched unless something is wrong with you
Tamox or Novedex the OTC stuff? That sounds like Gasp@ri Nutrition hype to me. That stuff is a waste of money.
It has a negative effect on IGF-1 and many people complain of 'reduced gains' from taking it during cycle i would assume the same thing would occur when not on cycle.
i'm pretty sure he means tamoxifen nolva and not noveQuote:
Originally Posted by ErnstHatAngst
there are lots of threads with blood work to back up their claims over at cutting edge muscle. Most highly trained endurance athletes have shown that their test levels have doubled or more while using it. Yes the OTC stuff.
What a nice thought, take some nolva and increase test levels by 150%, you might have hit on something there.
Seriously, the only time that anything like those numbers where bandied about was in some clinical studies on elderly males who had sub baseline test and more estrogen than a 50yr old woman.
So, yes it can increase test levels substantially, but only in the above criteria and only by reducing estrogen levels.
..please read through those threads over on cutting edge before making any more comments.. Numerous people who post on the board got before and after blood tests and posted the results.
I don't need to, i know the pharmacodynamics and pharmacokinetics of tamoxifen, i choose to believe the clinical and scientific data available.Quote:
Originally Posted by noneyours
Of which there is plenty, a good read of any of the endo studies will show that this is only possible given the right criteria.
lats he talking about the otc novedex now..
Damn, this gets worse, i think i;ll just leave him to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Own
I've used it. I don't need someone else to tell me that it's great when personal experience says otherwise. Sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by noneyours