test e, nolva

**peedee** · 10-29-2008, 11:46 PM

12 week cycle of test enanthate

wk1 - 750mg
wk2-12 500mg

split up twice a week

nolva 14 days after last stab

Day 1 - 100mg
Following 10 days - 60mg
Following 10 days - 40mg

wondering if nolva by itself could control estrogen levels an kick start my testosterone levels up, also use nolvadex if gyno appears

super basic cycle for first time
im 6ft weigh 80kg

**Amorphic** · 10-29-2008, 11:49 PM

full stats please?

nolva alone is not good enough for pct and 100mgs is way too much, even for 1 day. same with 60.

add an AI such as aromasin to your pct. 15-20mgs ed for 4 weeks.

**Mulciber** · 10-29-2008, 11:50 PM

for pct how bout drop those doses down a tad and run it longer..
i myself would use both clomid and nolvadex .

**AnimalGear** · 10-29-2008, 11:52 PM

bump

**peedee** · 10-30-2008, 12:00 AM

for pct over 4 weeks ed

Nolva - 20/20/20/20mg
Clomid - 50/50/25/25mg

21
6ft
80kg
13%
diet: everyday differs, pretty much eat till i can feel my stomach stretching
round 3-4 years lifting
cycle experience: first time
goals: mass

**peedee** · 10-30-2008, 02:24 AM

bump what do you guys think about that?

**Back In Black** · 10-30-2008, 02:26 AM

Why is week 1 of cycle not 1000mg of test e? Assume you are front loading?

**peedee** · 10-30-2008, 03:44 AM

yea me an my mate are doing this together an we are getting 50ml for a set price, so if you do the math 2ml a week for 12 weeks = 24ml, we split that last 1ml between us an front load

**T_Own** · 10-30-2008, 03:49 AM

it would still be considered a frontload even if its not double. but you're young, light, and probably have a bad diet. you should definitely look into that. its too late to tell you to grow more naturally, 6' 175 is a little small

**peedee** · 10-30-2008, 04:03 AM

what are you trying to say?

**T_Own** · 10-30-2008, 04:08 AM

exactly what i typed......? you still have room to grow on your own and your diet probably isn't good.

WHICH MEANS...... you shouldn't be taking steroids . but its too late now

**peedee** · 10-30-2008, 04:17 AM

i havent started yet, thats why im on here, get suggestions from other people experienced in this sought of thing

**T_Own** · 10-30-2008, 04:24 AM

well thats my suggestion. ay 6' i think you could be 190 EASY. i'm 5'9, 18 years old, 8%bf, 183lbs (~83kg) and never took more than creatine/protein

**peedee** · 10-30-2008, 04:35 AM

i look at my 2 brothers who are both older than me an my parents an i just dont have the genetic makeup to get big, im already bigger than evryone in my family, they are all weeds, its as though we were put on this earth to be marathin runers or something haha

**T_Own** · 10-30-2008, 04:49 AM

well you can say that but they probably never pushed their limits or worked out really. sure it might be harder, but it can be done i think. especially if you get your diet in order some, you should be able to gain weight naturally