Test and Deca

**breakbones** · 09-17-2008, 10:38 AM

I plan on taking my next cycle which is my 3rd on test e 500 a week and deca 550 a week for 14 weeks.....

How does that look

my next question is, for my pct. I ordered Clomid on the Ar. but, is it an oral? or a liquid? or inject?. and how would it use it? and how many bottles do I need?

**redz** · 09-17-2008, 10:44 AM

This is your third cycle? yikes......

Where to start....

Run test longer than deca
clomid only pct is not good you definitely need to get an ai in there like aromasin or adex.
The liquid clomid IS NOT injectable it is oral and should come with a measuring syringe. You should be able to do the math on how many you need based on dose required.
Hopefully you dont have any prolactin problems with the deca as you have nothing on hand for it. I would suggest having letro on hand in case but thats just me.

**breakbones** · 09-17-2008, 10:48 AM

Can you guide me in the correct path of how much I should take of clomid. please.

Oh, and yes my 3rd cycle, My did not do pct for those at all, my dumb fault but now iim trying......

**redz** · 09-17-2008, 11:02 AM

1 bottle should be enough there are different dosing protocols:
Most say 50mg/day is sufficient I used more on my last cycle through the first week then went down to 50mg. I would definitely pick up a bottle of l-dex too that will aid in your recovery greatly.

**breakbones** · 09-17-2008, 11:12 AM

Thanks bro,

**Flex-Appeal** · 09-17-2008, 11:30 AM

For pct: clomid, nolva, and l-lex would be good
L dex .25
Nolva 20
Clomid 50
Mgs taken daily
Some will disagree but it will be fine for that cycle

**inky-e** · 09-17-2008, 05:22 PM

I am not a clomid fan! I cycled test 750mg's a week with 500 mg's of deca and did a 6 week PCT that was
Week 1-4 adex@ .25 a day
week 1-6 nolva @ 20 mg's a day
HCG week 5-6 @ 250 iu's 2x a week
I also incorporated clen on workout days and had great success with my PCT.....seamless and smooth with good strength through out.

**breakbones** · 09-18-2008, 09:32 AM

Why is it some poeple disagree on clomid?

**inky-e** · 09-18-2008, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by breakbones

Why is it some poeple disagree on clomid?

I used it and it affected my vision....personally I like being able to see when I'm riding my scoot....there are other reasons thats my primary gripe...since you asked.

**redz** · 09-18-2008, 09:48 AM

I used it and it affected my vision....personally I like being able to see when I'm riding my scoot....there are other reasons thats my primary gripe...since you asked.

I wouldnt use it either if I had those sides. for me it only caused a little moodiness and I was very emotional but lowering the dose usually fixes that.

**breakbones** · 09-18-2008, 09:55 AM

So what should I dose it at for myself?

**"Maximus"** · 09-18-2008, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by inky-e

I am not a clomid fan! I cycled test 750mg's a week with 500 mg's of deca and did a 6 week PCT that was
Week 1-4 adex@ .25 a day
week 1-6 nolva @ 20 mg's a day
HCG week 5-6 @ 250 iu's 2x a week
I also incorporated clen on workout days and had great success with my PCT.....seamless and smooth with good strength through out.

I like this breakdown, Ink.. clomid is not that bad, but like you say, not everybody reacts well to it, that's why the adviced range intake of 25-50mgs!

**"Maximus"** · 09-18-2008, 09:57 AM

@breakb,

start at 25mgs... if you see after the first few 4/5 days (or week), leave at 25mgs.. if you don't see that's helping, bump it to 50mgs.

**breakbones** · 09-18-2008, 10:00 AM

Now what would I be looking for during this time,

What kind of sides to people get, does it cause heart palpitation

**"Maximus"** · 09-18-2008, 10:11 AM

at low dosage of 25-50mgs, you should see no sides... at higher doses though, 100mgs and up, then yes..

**breakbones** · 09-18-2008, 10:12 AM

So I would run it at 25 for how long than go to 50 for how long, a total for Duh george how long please.

I mean, would I run this for 6 weeks or less

Oh and thanks for the info!

**"Maximus"** · 09-18-2008, 10:17 AM

you can run it at 50mgs for first 2 weeks, then drop it to 25mgs for the last two weeks.. or you could run it along with the Nolva for 6 weeks in a 1-1 ratio, 20mgs Nolva/25mgs Clomid Wks 1-6.

If other serious sides from cycling become apparent, most notoriously the gyno, then dosages should be bumped accordingly, the AI/Serm dosages can be left as stated in previous posts.

**breakbones** · 10-30-2008, 11:04 PM

Should I run My Test more than deca or deca less then test?

**Phate** · 10-30-2008, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by breakbones

Should I run My Test more than deca or deca less then test?

you'll get mixed answers on that, some people say more test, some say equal, and some run an hrt dose of test (250mg) with as much as 500-600mg of deca , just depends on how your body responds

**breakbones** · 10-30-2008, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

you'll get mixed answers on that, some people say more test, some say equal, and some run an hrt dose of test (250mg) with as much as 500-600mg of deca, just depends on how your body responds

Can some people give me some lay-outs please.

**breakbones** · 10-30-2008, 11:18 PM

Bump

**Mulciber** · 10-30-2008, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by breakbones

Should I run My Test more than deca or deca less then test?

this is the same thing isnt it..

anyway, i prefer to run test a bit higher then deca , well most everything for that matter and a couple weeks longer as well.
but not always necessary.. depends on exactly what your looking for

**briancb1** · 10-31-2008, 12:57 AM

You can run Test at any level you like as you do not need to run Test at all, its just preferred because it helps with gains and reduces sexual problems.

Not one person brought up cabergoline/dostinex... I would look into this if your'e going to run a 19-nor

good luck