Next cycle, please share some knowlwdge

[big83]

Stats are:

5'9
216
12% BF
6 previous cycles
25 yo

i want to do my next cycle, but i need opinions
it will include: Deca, Test E, and tren A

my question is that im between using tren A or Winni.
what will you guys use, and why?
which one is better for keeping gains?

thanks, input is apreciated.

big83

[Phate]

Stats are:

5'9
216
12% BF
6 previous cycles
25 yo

i want to do my next cycle, but i need opinions
it will include: Deca, Test E, and tren A

my question is that im between using tren A or Winni.
what will you guys use, and why?
which one is better for keeping gains?

thanks, input is apreciated.

big83

that's gonna be a weird shot schedule, why not use either enth, deca and tren e, or switch to short esters and use prop, tren ace and possibly npp, though that's a pretty strong cycle

what are the other cycles you've run

[big83]

they have been mostly:

tren, test e, dbol

deca, test e , dbl

test e , wini

[Phate]

they have been mostly:

tren, test e, dbol

deca, test e , dbl

test e , wini

so then do you perfer long esters or would you like to try short esters, either one of the two cycles i proposed will work well, it just depends on which you want to run and how you want to run it

[stpete]

Two 19 nor's (deca and tren) isn't a good idea. I know some people like it, but i don't recommend it at all.
I guess you want to bulk?

[Phate]

Two 19 nor's (deca and tren) isn't a good idea. I know some people like it, but i don't recommend it at all.
I guess you want to bulk?

i agree, but after 6 cycles i figured he could try it and see how he likes it, just a suggestion though

[stpete]

i agree, but after 6 cycles i figured he could try it and see how he likes it, just a suggestion though

Sure he could. But pct is a must at that point. Does he know how this would go? Let's ask.

[big83]

you guys are right, i want to keep the test e in there, but, i dont know about deca with tren. and to be honest i know about pct, but i never used it, and thank god it has been ok.

i have HCG, nolva, and armidex.

i definatelly want to keep the test e at 1000mg a week, and 75mg eod for 14 weeks, but im trying to go with a bulking, and lean out a bit with the tren. so should i throw in the deca, or no?
or what else will you recomend with these 2 compounds

im open to any opinions, so please go ahead and criticize as what you think?

big83

[T_Own]

i would go with prop tren a and masteron/winstrol at the end
or prop npp tren if you really want to use the two together.

i would go with the short esters, and i think throwing in a dht at the end would really help harden up what the tren has already done.


also, i don't know how you can use deca and tren and not run a pct and still be going fine. even the lucky ones run out after that many tries lol. so i would definitely not push it more on this one

[SmittyTheOX]

Well you seem like you should have the basic knowledge to design your cycle better then we could. Youve run each of the compounds you are talking about using so should know how you responded to each and at what dose.

The only time I think taking tren and deca together is a good idea is if your doing it to counter joint pains that some suffer on tren. In that case a low dose, 50-100mg/week would suffice.

Id recommend you swap it around a little more like this:
Test Eth 750mg/week (2x 350mg/week)
Tren Eth 500mg/week (2x 250mg/week)
Run that for 12-14 weeks

You could throw in Winstrol 40mg/day for the last 4 weeks and even Dbol 40mg/day for the first 4 to get things moving.

Youll need to decide on what your taking so we can help you with yur PCT.


OX