Cycle Opinions

**Rayden** · 11-11-2002, 02:43 PM

What's up Boyz!

I am 29 yrs old, training for 4 years, Height is 5'10", bw 182lbs, bf 12%.

Any opinions on this cycle. I wanna gain mass to about 200lbs!

Wk 1-12 = Deca @ 400mg/wk (Monday/Thursday)
Wk 1-12 = Sust @ 500mg/wk (Monday/Thursday)
Wk 15-16 = CLOMID (300mg 1D / 100mg 3D / 50mg ED)

Do you think I should run some Nolvadex during the cycle as well?
If so, when and at what doseages?

**still growin** · 11-11-2002, 02:51 PM

Looks good. I would throw in some d-bol weeks 1-4 at 40mg to give you some extra size. Have nolva on hand in case of gyno, but You might want to run arimidex or liquidex throughout to help prevent bloat/gyno. Also, since you are running deca , I reccommend having enough clomid to do an extra week if your nuts don't come back.

**Red5** · 11-11-2002, 02:57 PM

Looks good to me.Hold off on the Nolva unless you get signs of gyno (sore nips or swelling ) or if you bloat really bad.10-20 mgs a day is normally sufficient if you do.
Just make sure to eat everything in sight and lift like your life depends on it.
Good luck bro

**Rayden** · 11-11-2002, 03:05 PM

Thanks Guys (Red5 and SG)!

Currently I consume about 4000 cal a day. I'll will hold off on the Nolvadex until I see gyno signs.
D-Bol sounds good but what dosages do you reccomend to take arimidex or liquidex, for how long and what weeks should I take them at?

**Red5** · 11-11-2002, 03:15 PM

Is this your first cycle? if so then leave out the Dbol , otherwise run the
Dbol 30mgs a day for 3 weeks, Arimidex .5mgs a day is the normal dose and you can run that through your whole cycle.

**Rayden** · 11-11-2002, 03:20 PM

Yes, this is my first cycle. Does it matter it it is? (just curious)?
Great I'll pick up some arimidex .

**Rich8888** · 11-11-2002, 03:23 PM

Bro, you should add some good size and strength gains on that cycle. I just finished one just like it.

**Rayden** · 11-11-2002, 03:25 PM

Sorry about my First POST (Correction - CLOMID is running from wk15 to wk 19).........

**KrashRoute** · 11-11-2002, 04:49 PM

I wouldnt reccomend 12 weeks of sus deca at all for a 1st cycle. No way at all. DECA kills some peoples test HARD so if you do run it i would knock it to 8-9 weeks I would also recommend using a different ester of test and only for 10 wks.... cyp or ethan clear you system a week eariler than sus and will allow you to start clo easier. JMO

**still growin** · 11-11-2002, 06:43 PM

Didn't catch the 12 weeks, reading too fast. Deca and sust will be active for about 3 weeks after last shot, so stopping at week 10 really would mean 13. I agree 10 weeks would probably be better. .5mg of arimidex throughout the cycle will do a body good.