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    MaThEw is offline New Member
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    Catabolism after courses?!

    Hi I'll start with stats,

    Age: 22
    Training: 4 years
    Using: 1 year
    Height: 5, 11"
    Weight: 12 Stone 8 Pounds
    Body Fat: Approx 8%
    Course History: (3 courses) Sus 250, Deca , Test E, Oxymethalone, Test 400

    Hi,
    about a year ago i started my first course using 1ml of sus250 and 1ml of deca per week, i went from 11 stone to 11 stone 10 pounds in 6 weeks then i broke my hand at work andhad to stop my course due to not being able to train, i lost a few pounds but then started another course at the begining of the year using oxymethalone, test E and deca, I went from 11 stone 5 to 13 stone!

    My problem is that every time i come off a cycle i seem to shrink! I used PCT in my last course but i still seem to go completely catabolic and look like a pencil! I try to maintain a steady diet and train just as i would as if i was mid course but nothing helps.....

    Ive recently joined a new gym and started another course using test 400 and deca, i plan to run this course for approx ten weeks usng clomid and tamoxafin as PCT. The guy that owns the gym is massive and has very low bod fat, although he never seems to lose size....whats the secret?...hgh '£££'?

    Is there anything i can do to hold my size and shape to carry it onto my next course? Clen ?

    Thanks, Matt

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    Post up your diet outline.

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    AnimalGear is offline Little Monster in the making
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    and your PCT and workout split

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    MaThEw is offline New Member
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    Diet -

    Breakfast - Porrige/Cereal
    10am - Steak Pie
    12.30pm - Sandwiches + protein bar/shake/tuna
    5pm - Evening meal (I eat alot of pasta) + Protein Shake
    Bannana Before Training Session + Protein Shake After
    4 Egg Whites Before Bed

    PCT -

    50mg Clomid Daily - 2 weeks
    40mg Tam/Nol Daily - 2 weeks

    Workout -

    DAY 1
    Back
    DAY 2
    Soulders + Tris
    DAY 3
    Legs
    DAY 4
    CHEST + Bi's

    Does this help?

    Thanks, Matt

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    Too much in protein shakes, too little in real meat. Shakes are a waste, I do much much better while on real food.

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    you can only hold so much muscle naturally no matter what you do.

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    AnimalGear is offline Little Monster in the making
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    yea you have a lot of learning to do if you actually want steroids to work for you

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    your not eating enough....so your body eats off itself, thus causeing you to shrink

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    I suggest you watch these videos by Milos Sarcev

    So you wanna learn how to Diet?

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    Cannibalism?? Why would you wanna eat human flesh post cycle???

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    Sorry...read it wrong...lol

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    Porrige? Steak pies? Cereal?

    To the diet forum with you man.

    And welcome to the forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by higherdesire View Post
    I suggest you watch these videos by Milos Sarcev

    So you wanna learn how to Diet?
    just watched those vids.....awesome material!!

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    MaThEw is offline New Member
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    Wow thanks vids seem really good

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    how long are you waiting to start PCT...if you start to early with long esters like deca you might have wasted your pct...your test levels will be so low it will not support any of the mass you gained.

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