Low Sex Drive

**double chicken** · 11-04-2008, 01:31 PM

My sex drive seems a little bit low, not gone but low. I can still make things happen when I want too.
So I went and had my test levels checked.
Please see attached and let me know what you think?
bloodwork two.TIF.pdf

**double chicken** · 11-04-2008, 02:53 PM

bump.
Please review results.

**double chicken** · 11-04-2008, 04:20 PM

Kale? PT? Freakish?

**LATS60** · 11-04-2008, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by double chicken

My sex drive seems a little bit low, not gone but low. I can still make things happen when I want too.
So I went and had my test levels checked.
Please see attached and let me know what you think?
bloodwork two.TIF.pdf

Are you taking anything right now?

**smokethedays** · 11-04-2008, 04:43 PM

Did u just finish a PCT?

**Kale** · 11-04-2008, 05:15 PM

Obviously your free and total are both reasonably low. You should have had your Estradiol checked as well as this could be the culprit

**LATS60** · 11-04-2008, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Kale

Obviously your free and total are both reasonably low. You should have had your Estradiol checked as well as this could be the culprit

Now you tell him

**Kale** · 11-04-2008, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by LATS60

Now you tell him

Did he ask me ?

**Ashop** · 11-04-2008, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by double chicken

My sex drive seems a little bit low, not gone but low. I can still make things happen when I want too.
So I went and had my test levels checked.
Please see attached and let me know what you think?
bloodwork two.TIF.pdf

did you use PCT??
ON anything now?

**double chicken** · 11-05-2008, 10:35 AM

I am not on anything now.
I finished my PCT at the end of july.

**double chicken** · 11-05-2008, 10:39 AM

should i run another PCT?

**john1181** · 11-05-2008, 01:15 PM

bro, go get ZMA, tribulus terestris, maca, and panax ginsing! i guarantee you back to normal in no time...healthy diet, hit the weights eod...youl be aight

**double chicken** · 11-05-2008, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by john1181

bro, go get ZMA, tribulus terestris, maca, and panax ginsing! i guarantee you back to normal in no time...healthy diet, hit the weights eod...youl be aight

John - ARe those all "over the counter"?

**XNathan** · 11-05-2008, 01:55 PM

For me work good fadogia agrenestis and ZMA. Also good sleep and diet is helping.

But its important to know your precycle values.. but you feel not in your skin so propably you will be normaly around 500 or more.

Good luck!

**double chicken** · 11-05-2008, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by XNathan

For me work good fadogia agrenestis and ZMA. Also good sleep and diet is helping.

But its important to know your precycle values.. but you feel not in your skin so propably you will be normaly around 500 or more.

Good luck!

yeah, I feel different than before my cycle when I would be "doin it" with my lady every night and would try to in the morning as well. Now I dont have any interest unless she pursues... I liked it the old way better.

would another small PCT help me? or better yet could it hurt me?

**LATS60** · 11-05-2008, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by double chicken

yeah, I feel different than before my cycle when I would be "doin it" with my lady every night and would try to in the morning as well. Now I dont have any interest unless she pursues... I liked it the old way better.

would another small PCT help me? or better yet could it hurt me?

No, another small PCT wont help, sorry but if you take steroids there are consequences.

**double chicken** · 11-05-2008, 03:16 PM

really lots of people lose their sex drive permanently???

**LATS60** · 11-05-2008, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by double chicken

really lots of people lose their sex drive permanently???

I didn't say that.

**double chicken** · 11-05-2008, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by LATS60

I didn't say that.

please clarify because that is a scary statement?

**LATS60** · 11-05-2008, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by double chicken

please clarify because that is a scary statement?

Appologies mate, didn't mean to scare you.
Taking steroids messes with your own natural test production, shuts down or at the very least suppreses your HPTA function therefore screws up your hemostasis, i'm not being patronising but you must have known this was a possibilty, amongst other things just take a look at how much the HPTA controls within our body, everything.

**double chicken** · 11-05-2008, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by LATS60

Appologies mate, didn't mean to scare you.
Taking steroids messes with your own natural test production, shuts down or at the very least suppreses your HPTA function therefore screws up your hemostasis, i'm not being patronising but you must have known this was a possibilty, amongst other things just take a look at how much the HPTA controls within our body, everything.

Lats - I absolutely understood this BUT from all the reading i have done on this site i was under the understanding that with a proper PCT and 'time' that it would equilize. Is this not the case for most people?

**john1181** · 11-05-2008, 04:44 PM

yes they areall over the counter..hit up a vitamin shoppe bro...get all that shit and you can thank me later....btw, erectile dysfunction caused by steroids is almost always gone if its an hpta issue...but, if its a circulation issue, hardening of the arteries and everything or damage done by too many bonners lol that lasted tooo long in yourslep can cuse penile damage...get the stuff i told you about and in 2weeks tops you will be humping peoples leg...panax kicks in hard in week 2....maca takes a month or so to start building strong sex drve and restoring hormones to a balanced level..tribulus increases lh/sensitivity, zma increases testosterone ....and if cash isnt he issue get some fresh royal jelly and some vening primrose oil wich is strongly related to sex hormones and their release......anyway good luck i know youll be fine bro dont worry i know what its like itsfrikin mad scary to fail in bed with the lady lol especially if shes special

**Joker111086** · 11-06-2008, 12:54 AM

hey john can u type out the full names of the stuff 2 get to increase ur sex drive, i kind of have the same problem. lol, kinda sucks

**XNathan** · 11-06-2008, 01:47 AM

Its take time to be back in normal. Even with good PCT some times takes more than 6months to feel really good like before steroids .

You can speed up process with some OTC supplements or use AI, SERM, hCG but last one I wouldnt use in second PCT becouse in not right dose it will make your testicles more insensitive then before.

My normal testosterone is around 900-950ng/dl. But even on this livel I dont feel as horny as I was before my steroid use . And 2wks after PCT my values was last time 386ng/dl and I feel like s..t. And one months later my level was 956ng/dl and I felt normal. I used ZMA and fadogia supplement.

**Freakish** · 11-06-2008, 02:02 AM

Hey bro,yeah those levels a on the low side,as everyone above has stated it will just take some time to return back to normal. I would not suggest you run another pct at this stage.Some guys just get hit harder then others,and personally i found that the first 2cycles took me longer to fully recover then it does now.by the way bro what pct did you run?

**john1181** · 11-06-2008, 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by Joker111086;4286***

hey john can u type out the full names of the stuff 2 get to increase ur sex drive, i kind of have the same problem. lol, kinda sucks

ZMA
tribulus terrestris
MACA PURIENTES (its under maca) (maca is like eating healthy stick with it does wonders to sex drive clear results and even better than you were b4 cycle is seen after 2-3months)
panax jinseng (results after 2weeks)
miura pauma is also very good (not too sure about this one mainly circulation)
fresh royal jelly (the type you keep in the fridge)results after a month
evening primrose oil synergy starts after 2-3weeks

i have really seen the difference on these in terms of faster recovery...best when used with pct but even after use for at least 3months...withi 2 weeks youwill defnotice a difference unless again its a circulation problem...what you can do then is get some garlic oil, eat lots of garlic, get vitamin e, ***** 3-6-9, a good multi vitamin if your not already taking one...i would actually buy all of these supps...i remmber this one cycle had messed me up so bad i couldnt evn get it up..i needed viagra and even then i couldnt really carry out trough the whole sexual session lol..i looked things up like a mad man....went and bought all this suff and in 2months i would wake up almost everymorning with superman erections..my lady was very dissapointed but wouldnt say anything then slowly she was happy again...sex plays a huuuuuuuge role in relatiohip and who ever says other is in another world! unless the female has nooo sexual desire due to messed up hormone imbalance..then again we have diet and cardio! its funny how all these play such a role....have a goo balanced diet...dont take all those fancy supplements, celltech and other formulas wich dont even do real things stick with whey protien, amino acids, hmb(which lowers bad cholesterol) do ome cardio 2x's a week and gradualy increase....weight training only hardens up the arteries..eat right....my last cycle tren messed me up bad sexually almost recovered after pct alone so i just started another cycle and after that its clean for at least a year with all these...they work fellaz

**double chicken** · 11-06-2008, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by john1181

ZMA
tribulus terrestris
MACA PURIENTES (its under maca) (maca is like eating healthy stick with it does wonders to sex drive clear results and even better than you were b4 cycle is seen after 2-3months)
panax jinseng (results after 2weeks)
miura pauma is also very good (not too sure about this one mainly circulation)
fresh royal jelly (the type you keep in the fridge)results after a month
evening primrose oil synergy starts after 2-3weeks

i have really seen the difference on these in terms of faster recovery...best when used with pct but even after use for at least 3months...withi 2 weeks youwill defnotice a difference unless again its a circulation problem...what you can do then is get some garlic oil, eat lots of garlic, get vitamin e, ***** 3-6-9, a good multi vitamin if your not already taking one...i would actually buy all of these supps...i remmber this one cycle had messed me up so bad i couldnt evn get it up..i needed viagra and even then i couldnt really carry out trough the whole sexual session lol..i looked things up like a mad man....went and bought all this suff and in 2months i would wake up almost everymorning with superman erections..my lady was very dissapointed but wouldnt say anything then slowly she was happy again...sex plays a huuuuuuuge role in relatiohip and who ever says other is in another world! unless the female has nooo sexual desire due to messed up hormone imbalance..then again we have diet and cardio! its funny how all these play such a role....have a goo balanced diet...dont take all those fancy supplements, celltech and other formulas wich dont even do real things stick with whey protien, amino acids, hmb(which lowers bad cholesterol) do ome cardio 2x's a week and gradualy increase....weight training only hardens up the arteries..eat right....my last cycle tren messed me up bad sexually almost recovered after pct alone so i just started another cycle and after that its clean for at least a year with all these...they work fellaz

Thanks John I appreciate the info!

Freakish -
my last PCT was:
100mg Clomid 30 days
20mg Ldex 15 days
20mg Nolva 15 days
1000mg vitamin E 30 days

**Freakish** · 11-06-2008, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by double chicken

Thanks John I appreciate the info!

Freakish -
my last PCT was:
100mg Clomid 30 days
20mg Ldex 15 days
20mg Nolva 15 days
1000mg vitamin E 30 days

oh ok bro, next time do nolva for 30days and id drop the ldex as it reduces the effectiveness of the nolva,replace it with aromasin or proviron .

**double chicken** · 11-06-2008, 07:27 AM

will do.
thanks.

**asr77** · 06-07-2010, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by john1181

ZMA
tribulus terrestris
MACA PURIENTES (its under maca) (maca is like eating healthy stick with it does wonders to sex drive clear results and even better than you were b4 cycle is seen after 2-3months)
panax jinseng (results after 2weeks)
miura pauma is also very good (not too sure about this one mainly circulation)
fresh royal jelly (the type you keep in the fridge)results after a month
evening primrose oil synergy starts after 2-3weeks

Bumping an old thread, can you or someone run thrugh dosages of the above or just take as directed

**emo** · 07-04-2010, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by asr77

Bumping an old thread, can you or someone run thrugh dosages of the above or just take as directed

yeah bump, my other question is will u take all of these at ones?

**40plusnewbie** · 07-04-2010, 03:04 PM

Get your prolactin level checked.

medical study by the Federico II University, Naples, Italy published in the European Journal Endocrinol 1998 March showed Cabergoline (brandnames: Dostinex/Cabaser) to very potent in increasing libido and sexual potency. The study examined the Cabergoline (Dostinex) vs. Bromocriptine (Parlodel).
Dostinex (Cabergoline) proved superior in all respects to Parlodel (Bromocriptine). Seventeen males with macroprolactinoma were treated with Cabergoline or Bromocriptine for 6 months. All patients initially suffered from libido impairment,
Ten from reduced sexual potency, and six had infertility. Before treatment, all patients suffered from low number of erections , had a low sperm count with oligoasthenospermia, reduced motility and rapid progression with abnormal morphology and decreased viability. After 1 month of treatment prolactin levels were significantly reduced in both groups of patients. After 6 months of treatment, a significant increase of number, total motility, rapid progression and normal morphology was recorded in patients treated with Cabergoline and Bromocriptine. A notable increase in the number of erections during the first 3 months was recorded and continued throughout the 6 months of treatment. However the improvements in seminal fluid parameters and sexual function were more evident and rapid in patients treated with Cabergoline (Dostinex). A significant increase of serum testosterone and dihydrotestosterone were recorded. The beginning of treatment, mild side-effects were recorded in two patients after Caberoline usage compared to five Bromocriptine patients who suffered mild-to-moderate
side-effects. Treatment with Cabergoline (Dostinex) normalized prolactin levels, improving gonadal and sexual function and fertility in males with prolactinoma, earlier than did Bromocriptine treatment. Cabergoline provided good tolerability and excellent patient compliance to medical treatment.