New Cycle Advice??? Mixing In same Syringe???

[Subnoize05]

Gonna start Deca/Susta cycle. was wondering if I could draw both into the same syringe for an easy 1 stick or should I use 2 different syringes and inject 2 different times??? Also I have 20ml Susta 250/ 20ml Deca D 250 any advice on how I should do the cycle for maximum results??? what CC's per week? what length 8, 10, 12 week cycle??? Just wondering what has worked best for ya'll...

[WARMachine]

From the sounds of your question, you havent got the slightest clue about what youre doing. And that right there means you are NOT ready for AAS.

age ?
height ?
weight ?
bf% ?
diet summary/meals per day ?
previous cycles ?
estorgen control knowledge/PCT ?
goals ?

To answer your question, yes, you can load them in the same syringe.

[redz]

You can mix them there is no problem there.

Because You have 20ml of each....

Sustanon 500mg/week (split into 2 injects)
Deca 500mg/week (split into 2 injects)

Sustanon is best shot eod but every 3.5 days is still okay it just doesnt take full advantage of the short esters in it. Really you should get more gear so you can run it for 12-14 weeks. You only have enough for 10 weeks right now and you should stop the deca 1-2 weeks before stopping the test. What do you have planed for pct and to fight gyno problems on cycle?

[WARMachine]

Sust is actually best shot ED. EOD being ok, and 2xW being dumb.

This is just one of many reasons why sust sucks IMO.

[redz]

Sust is actually best shot ED. EOD being ok, and 2xW being dumb.

I`m with you on this I just know these guys will do it twice per week anyways. I personally wouldnt touch sustanon.

[WARMachine]

^^^ Lol same brother!

[Subnoize05]

From the sounds of your question, you havent got the slightest clue about what youre doing. And that right there means you are NOT ready for AAS.

age ?
height ?
weight ?
bf% ?
diet summary/meals per day ?
previous cycles ?
estorgen control knowledge/PCT ?
goals ?

To answer your question, yes, you can load them in the same syringe.

K actually I do have a slight clue of what Im doin thanks. im 22 yrs old, 6'2 192lbs, 6-8%bf,,, 8 Meals per day, 2 dbol only cycles, 1 deca cycle, 1 test/dbol cycle (using dbol during 1st 4 weeks) and Im still previously on! PCT ill be using Nolva/Clomid!

Like I said Im on my 4th week of Test Cyp 200 with my Dbol stack. And plan on hitn 200lbs with this cycle!

Goals on my Susta/Deca cycle is to hit between 215 - 220lbs... I wont be starting this cycle tell Feb 09 just makn sure its ok to mix into the same syringe! and was getn some opinions on how others have gained on this same cycle...

[Subnoize05]

And I can pick up some more of it becuz Like I stated above I wont be starting for another couple months... Thats just all I got in stock for the moment!

[WARMachine]

K actually I do have a slight clue of what Im doin thanks. im 22 yrs old, 6'2 192lbs, 6-8%bf,,, 8 Meals per day, 2 dbol only cycles, 1 deca cycle, 1 test/dbol cycle (using dbol during 1st 4 weeks) and Im still previously on! PCT ill be using Nolva/Clomid!

Like I said Im on my 4th week of Test Cyp 200 with my Dbol stack. And plan on hitn 200lbs with this cycle!

Goals on my Susta/Deca cycle is to hit between 215 - 220lbs... I wont be starting this cycle tell Feb 09 just makn sure its ok to mix into the same syringe! and was getn some opinions on how others have gained on this same cycle...

You just asked if you could load Sust and Deca in the same syringe and you also asked how many CC's a week to use without telling us the concentration of the gear! You dont know how to dose your own drugs!?

Like i said, not a CLUE!

But since you want to get all defensive, help yourself bro... I LOVE helping people who WANT to learn, but since it seems like you know it all (of course you do, youve done 2Dbol only, and 1Deca only cycles) then best of luck on your own!

I look forward to your next thread titled "I think i have gyno! Help!"


Best of Luck youngster!

[jnewton86]

subnoize05, you should listen to war4btt. were not here to ridicule you, were here to help. Based on your cycle experience and your question, that alone shows yours competence.

[Subnoize05]

well I would listen to him if he would give common answers of help instead of the smartass u have no clue answers.

ya I asked about mixing cuz ive read & heard both good and bad come out of that. I also asked about dosing my on cc's becuz of course u know everyone takes theres a little different. I was planning on running 500mg of both deca/sust for 10 weeks using some hcg (if I could find it with dilutent) and nolva/ clomid for pct. I was just askn the whole dosage ? becuz I was just comparing my cycle to everyone elses! And I told u from the 1st post both the susta and deca are 250mg/ml

Also on the whole previous cycles thing. Those are cycles I was told to take by someone with 5 + years experience and actually they did exactly what I was told. I planned on stopping AAS after the deca but decided to further on so Ive had a change of plans!

[jnewton86]

well, best of luck then bro. you should also understand we get quite a few people on here that just want answers on takin steroids, yet their no where near ready for em. War4btt may have come off caulky,but had good intentions. personally, i find d-bol only cycles worthless. I dont see how it can be justified, but if it worked for you then awesome. and as others have stated, mixing the compounds in the same syringe is just fine

[SilverTest]

DUde i dont know if you understood the bros here , but in a nutshell , you dont know jack about cycling if you did dbol only cycles and deca only cycles ,

HORRRRIBLE! deca only , lol.

Its not a problem if you want more information , but these are basic things that you should know before you even do your first cycle dude , NOT do your cycle WHILE researching the basics . Do your search first , know ALL the basic things that you must know , then do a cycle.

[THEMEATEATER]

DUde i dont know if you understood the bros here , but in a nutshell , you dont know jack about cycling if you did dbol only cycles and deca only cycles ,

HORRRRIBLE! deca only , lol.

Its not a problem if you want more information , but these are basic things that you should know before you even do your first cycle dude , NOT do your cycle WHILE researching the basics . Do your search first , know ALL the basic things that you must know , then do a cycle.

Sorry m8 but you aint exactly gunna get anywhere talking to people like that now are you? and dbol only cycles are a waste of time and money imo, their ok if you just want to kickstart a cycle off, and deca should be run with test, definately not on its own.
If you had any kind of reasonable knowledge about steroids then you would have know that you can mix sus & deca in the same syringe. Any water or oil based steroids can be done this way. An apology can go a long way!!

[chuckt12345]

yes you can mix and you prob need more gear and go at least 12 weeks but if not

wk 1-10 500mg/wksust
wk 1-10 500 mg/wk deca

its hard to get answers on this forum,, just because your not on this forum everyday reading threads doesnt make you stupid. Im not anyones mom and i dont really care if there ready for juice or not,, if i think i know the answer or best possible outcome then ill write it. Good luck

[Big]

stop the deca at least a week prior to the test. deca for 10 and sust for 12 would be better.

[Slin Ninja]

And i i thought you were supposed to keep your test higher than your deca mg??

[THEMEATEATER]

And i i thought you were supposed to keep your test higher than your deca mg??

not neceserely! imo its best to keep it above/level but not below.

[Big]

And i i thought you were supposed to keep your test higher than your deca mg??

nope. although the deca will suppress your natural test production, it will not (can not) suppress the test you inject. even at 250mg/weektest and 600mg/week deca, your test level would still be higher than natural. some prefer test higher than 19nors, but in my experience it's not required.

[Pittbull78]

There's nothing wrong with mixing most AAS injectibles. I have done so for several years, and it helps cut down using mutiple syringes. My advice is to change out you needle because once it goes through two rubber stoppers it'll be dull. Sure, I've injected with a dull needle - but it has always meant an extra sore injection site.

The only time you really shouldn't mix stuff is when you have two compounds that require different kinds of injections ie. subcutaneous vs. intramuscular.

As for mgs. I always run my test high atleast 600 mg a week (preferably more!) and keep my deca at a minimum of 400mg a week. While I do like deca I usually avoid it these days, simply becasue all my gear is from UGL and this is a more expensive compound to make (nandrolone) and consequently it is the most counterfeited on the black market to day. There's an interesting article that came out a few months back in an MD magazine that revealed an analysis on numerous ugl steroids from 3 different distributors all with known gear brands like British D@#$#$%. Anyways the important point is most of the shit was real - except all three distributor's deca failed. As it turns out it was simply "watered down" test, to mimick the more mild effects of the this compound. I believe that is exactly what I purchased once and I will no longer **** with deca unless its comes from a real pharmacy!

I'm not saying yours is indeed fake. However the odds stack up against you - esp if its from an UGL. Good luck!

[Subnoize05]

Thanks for the advice. and war4btt if u want ur appology then Im sry for bein snappy back.. I just think its a little ridiculous saying "u have no clue" when someone asks a simple question. Common sense to me would say if someones askn then they obviously dont know.

Also on my dbol only cycles. The 1st cycle was a complete success yes I gained all the weight and strength I was told I would. As for the 2nd cycle yes a complete failure. Although It was my only alternative to injections which I was tryin to steer clear of.

Also I do research everything I do now ever since I did my deca only cycle. Of course Im no pro to this stuff but ya I think I do have a slight clue as to what Im doing. If I didnt well then im sure id be having major side effects.

Now enough of that. ill go ahead and put more Sust on order to get me through a 12 week cycle although a question I have is ive always read and been told to Pyramid my cycles. is that not neccessary?

Also if im gonna order more should I go ahead and get enough to do 750mg per week of Sust? that way Im shooting every other day? And Ill just stick to 500mg of deca per week

[Subnoize05]

Also my gear is not from a UGL and actually seems to work quite fine. My deca seemed very clean/legit.

Thanks for all the advice

[THEMEATEATER]

eod would be fine, that way you will be getting good use from the prop and imo 4get about the pyramid m8, just stick to eod from start to finish if thats what you are gunna do