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    First cycle, 15 days in. No change

    I am 6ft 2inches tall and approx 112KG's.

    What do you think of this program?
    Should I gain weight? do I just need to give it a little more time.

    Thanks.
    Last edited by blueprintedt; 11-14-2008 at 12:41 AM.

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    age?
    body fat%?
    planned pct? (I hope not hcg only, that's suppressive)
    Way too many compounds for a first cycle.
    I would never run any cycle without test, but that's just me.
    why are the dosages bouncing up and down?
    Overall I say:
    ~fail~

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    jesus m8 your 1st cycle and your doing that whatever next, you shouldnt be doing a pct like that. Oh, I give up

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    i say your diet needs some work before you consider aas

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    Age: 31
    Body fat est: 26 - 28%
    Have been working out for approx 5 years

    I was put on this program by a guy who has been doing this stuff for a while, please give me your input on what the dosages should look like!

    Need to know more about the pct?

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    I am changing my diet as I think it was too strict, I am now following the diet program that I found on this website, on the main page.

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    you should lower your bf% to under 15% naturally via diet and cardio.
    you should not be on gear, and no one should be on that cycle.

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    test test test.... first cycle test only, 500mgs a week

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    I do cardio nearly every day!
    20 minute bike ride to warm up, 15 minute run after workout. 40 sit ups on decline bench a day.
    I also do kickboxing 3-4 days a week and MMA training once a week for 2-3 hours.
    I think I am fairly fit.

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    i think it would be hard to be almost 30% bf with that training regimen (not impossible of course), that is if your a balls to the walls type of trainer. pictures may help us judge your bf for you.

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    i think you should switch to creatin but do your body a favor and stop the roller coaster of dosage your body keeps a natural level of test don't you think you should try to mimic that with your steroids . why would you roller coaster your steroids. and my friend said so is not a good answer try to keep your levels as level as possible do more research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueprintedt View Post
    Body fat est: 26 - 28%
    Quote Originally Posted by blueprintedt View Post
    I think I am fairly fit.
    I appreciate your opinion, but I've been doing this a long time, and these statements drastically contradict each other.

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    Oh dear.. Where to begin.

    Your running 2 orals?

    Primo and Deca with no Test?

    Primo and Deca less than 12 weeks?

    I can smell the flop sweat coming from my LCD.

    Someone is going to have a shot liver, shriveled balls and a limp dick.

    And what is this PCT you speak of?

    I really hope all of your stuff is harmless and inert, if not, you are going to do harm to yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattwho123 View Post
    test test test.... first cycle test only, 500mgs a week
    at 26-28%bf, test is a fine recommendation if someone wants drastically increased odds of gyno and estrogen related sides, as well as blood pressure issues.
    your cycle advice is correct, once bf% is sub-15%

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    your cycle sucks check mine out that should give you a base line its under my cycle by OH REALLY leave me a post

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    I recommend you stop this cycle now and do a proper pct with at least nolva,clomid, and an ai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OH REALLY View Post
    your cycle sucks check mine out that should give you a base line its under my cycle by OH REALLY leave me a post
    again, regardless of the cycle, advising someone with this high bf to do any cycle is irresponsible advice. your cycle is fine for you, not him, not yet.

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    The person who put you on this regime is, what's the word, retarded!

    You can do a web search for steroid cycles and never find a cycle as wrong as the
    one you are on.

    Also, your bf% would put you in the obese range. That is absolutely horrible for
    cycling!!!

    Do the following:
    1) STOP this cycle.
    2) Do a proper PCT.
    3) Save your gear for some other day.
    4) Lose weight.
    5) Do research.

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    How can people have the guts to get on a cycle without doing a sufficient amount of research first.

    Why on earth would you get on a cycle like this?? What ever happened to an easy test cycle for your first. There are so many resources at our disposal that its a shame we still find numb skulls like this one here.

    DIET SHOULD BE YOUR #1 PRIORITY BEFORE EVER CONSIDERING AAS. If you cannot control your body composition naturally with using weights and a diet, then you shouldn't have ever considered this. Throw a plate at the guys head who told you to do this.

    Since you're on it already, I recommend following others' advice and stopping before you harm yourself.

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    OMG I just read that he's got a bf of around 30%

    You're insane brother.

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    Just went through the net and found a body fat calculator which took into consideration waist / hip measurements, wrist and forearm measurements.

    Body fat worked out 17%.

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    ^^^ Ummm yeah...
    That is not an actual accurate reading bro...

    If you wanna post up a pic, im pretty good at guessing BF%, and im sure others here are as well...

    Go the gym to have it tested. And not by one of those crappy electro things...

    Use a skin caliper...

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    I think their is more chance of seeing a rocking horse shit than blueprint putting a pic up. I could be proved wrong tho
    Do yourself a favour m8 and take Bigs & others advice and start a "Proper PCT" before you do do some damage to yourself, and if I was you I wouldnt listen to another word that d!ck head that you say put you on that so called cycle says in future. Get that body fat down, leave the steroids alone, their not going anywhere, make sure you do plenty of cardio (propper cardio) that works this time and learn as much as you possibly can about Steroids and PCT before you start anything else. Good Luck!

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    his bf was prob wrong

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