Help! Too Deep?

**New2Anabolic** · 11-17-2008, 12:04 AM

Some of you know that I've used 1½" needles on my delts.

Should have waited for 1" because now (3 days later, pinned on thurs) I feel a swollen area on the base of my shoulder (close to my bicep) and it is soar, and more soar when I lift my arm. Not pink and swollen outwards though.

I did not inject there (prob inch and a half above area), the gear was brand new, and the needles were brand new. I also cleaned all gear and area before usage.

I wonder now, Going all the way in when I pinned, did I go past my muscle into a fleshy area? I'm not sure what issues could be or what the absorption rate is, if I missed the muscle.

I'm quite sure I went in too far (the whole needle).

Help!?

**Phate** · 11-17-2008, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by New2Anabolic

Some of you know that I've used 1½" needles on my delts.

Should have waited for 1" because now (3 days later, pinned on thurs) I feel a swollen area on the base of my shoulder (close to my bicep) and it is soar, and more soar when I lift my arm. Not pink and swollen outwards though.

I did not inject there (prob inch and a half above area), the gear was brand new, and the needles were brand new. I also cleaned all gear and area before usage.

I wonder now, Going all the way in when I pinned, did I go past my muscle into a fleshy area? I'm not sure what issues could be or what the absorption rate is, if I missed the muscle.

I'm quite sure I went in too far (the whole needle).

Help!?

well, if you went too far you would have hit bone, and i doubt you did, probably are SORE because you tore alot of muscle tissure all down your should by injecting with such a long needle

**New2Anabolic** · 11-17-2008, 12:15 AM

wow. thank you for reassuring me so quickly.
If I could do back-flips at 2am (or at all for that matter) I would.

**Nicotine** · 11-17-2008, 12:16 AM

i wouldn't worry.

also, going that deep you coulda went into virgin tissue..... my first few shots sucked ass.

just snag those 1"-ers

**Phate** · 11-17-2008, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by New2Anabolic

wow. thank you for reassuring me so quickly.
If I could do back-flips at 2am (or at all for that matter) I would.

no prob bro, you actually caught me right before bed, i'm laying down now, but Mulciber would have reassured you had i not, and probably will anyway, just don't go injecting pecs with 1.5inch or you will go too deep, and probably end up hitting a lung or heart

for future reference order needles and pins in bulk and get
25g 1 inch general all around pin
23g 1.5 glutes, though 25 1 inch works if you glutes aren't too big
25g 5/8 inch can be used for delts, pecs etc
if oil is thick i would get some 18 or 21gauge too, though they tear up stoppers pretty quick

**New2Anabolic** · 11-17-2008, 11:03 AM

Shot with 1" today. Felt nice.

My right shoulder still hurts though, and it has a swollen area an inch below where I pinned (not a bump though). Still no pink either, at almost 5 days.

**stack_it** · 11-17-2008, 02:33 PM

Same thing happened to my buddy when he injected there with 1.5". If there's still a knot just massage it out. My ex gf is a massage therapist and got Rid of his. It looked like a golf ball under his skin. Do u rub it out after injecting or just inject it and let it go?

**New2Anabolic** · 11-17-2008, 03:06 PM

I lightly rub it, because it can actually cause issues if you massage after injecting.
I take some alcohol and wipe the area lightly for 20 seconds.

**WARMachine** · 11-17-2008, 03:12 PM

^^^ If you want to minimize injection pain, try taking hot showers before and after, as well as rubbing the area beforehand.

And possibly running the syringe under warm water before the injection.

Remeber, heat is your friend.

**New2Anabolic** · 11-18-2008, 12:07 AM

I think the swollen area is calming down a bit (f**k.. FINALLY!)

I will hope for the best 7-8 hours from now.

**lovbyts** · 11-18-2008, 01:54 AM

I'm thinking you maybe hit a tendon.... Ouch!!!

**frank12391** · 11-18-2008, 04:12 AM

Why he would have jumped & hit his head on the ceiling if he hit a tendon. Proly the oil irritated the tendon.

**New2Anabolic** · 11-18-2008, 05:39 PM

I am not one to go into a panic.

But my shoulder hurts significantly less today and now it has a 'big' red patch on it. (Not huge, of course - but about 3 square inches and it's warm)
I pinned up on the medial delt, the swollen part was lower closer to the bicep, and the red part is actually ON the bicep now.
- It's like it's slowly moving down.

Again, I pinned 1½ into my delt (way too deep) and the gear is brand new, and the area was cleaned before hand.

Any ideas?

**davidb** · 11-18-2008, 05:52 PM

Idea#1: Stop using the 1.5" pin for smaller muscles

**New2Anabolic** · 11-18-2008, 06:34 PM

thanks tips.

**richtries** · 11-18-2008, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by New2Anabolic

I am not one to go into a panic.

But my shoulder hurts significantly less today and now it has a 'big' red patch on it. (Not huge, of course - but about 3 square inches and it's warm)
I pinned up on the medial delt, the swollen part was lower closer to the bicep, and the red part is actually ON the bicep now.
- It's like it's slowly moving down.

Again, I pinned 1½ into my delt (way too deep) and the gear is brand new, and the area was cleaned before hand.

Any ideas?

sounds like an infection to me . . . would go to the doctors asap

**New2Anabolic** · 11-18-2008, 07:42 PM

bah!
I wonder how I could be infected if it was so clean.

**THEMEATEATER** · 11-18-2008, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by New2Anabolic

bah!
I wonder how I could be infected if it was so clean.

you will know if its an infection of not m8, but if by any chance it is then do the obvious thing and get it looked at asap, but chances are you will be fine