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    Talking getting 2 cycle in order ( advise please )

    Hey Guys,

    This will be my 2 cycle first cycle was
    sut 250 for 12 weeks. good results and very little sides

    Im 6.4 225lb 14% to 15%bf

    so for my 2 cycle I thinking

    wk1-4 500mg test prop a week shot everyday
    wk4-14 500mg test C or E a week shot 2times a week
    wk1-12 400 deca a week shot 1 or 2 times a week

    I also have some dbol not sure if i should add or not?
    if I did do like
    wk1-4 .50mgs

    pct would be .
    wk17-19 100mg clomid 20mg nolvadex everyday for
    wk19-21 50clomid 20mg nolvadex

    I was thinking of getting some HCG never used it.
    do you think it would be good thing to add?

    I have letro and LiquiDex on hand if needed

    Im trying to make sure Im not forgetting anything
    thanks guys

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    hCG would be a good idea whenever using a 19-Nor.

    Why would you have liquidex on hand?

    If gyno appears it wont do a thing for you.

    Id start using it from the beginning of the cycle to help control estrogen.

    That PCT looks good. The cycle looks fine.

    Id pass on the dbol .

    And id run the Test E from week 1-14. Maybe do 50mgs ED of Prop from weeks 1-4 to kickstart, or you could just frontload the Test E and save yourself the hassle of pinning ED.

    All in all a very good cycle. Well done bro! Finally someone does a lil research!

    btw, id work the BF% to below 12% before beginning in order to minimize the possible estrogen sides.

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    ^^ agreed. someone get this guy his own show lol. the dr phil of steroids

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    ^^^ I prefer the Tony Robbins of AAS...

    But nonetheless, thanks bro!

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    start the test c week 1 so it kicks in when the prop is done

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    doesnt LiquiDex help with bloating?
    thats why I was saying I had it on hand in case I started feeling bloated.

    but I just looked up letro and it looks like it works like liquidex but better .

    and I wont get everything for 30 or 40days so i started some clen and lots of cardio
    to cut the bf down before i start....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkcay7979 View Post
    doesnt LiquiDex help with bloating?
    thats why I was saying I had it on hand in case I started feeling bloated. (It does bro, but once the sides already appear they are they for good. Thats why you begin to take the Adex at the beginning of the cycle.)

    but I just looked up letro and it looks like it works like liquidex but better .

    (True, but you want SOME estrogen during cycle bro. Estrogen is needed in order to bulk muscle, and Letro stops about 98% of it. Plus it causes an estrogen rebound effect when use is discontinued. keep it on hand, but you shouldnt need it.)
    and I wont get everything for 30 or 40days so i started some clen and lots of cardio
    to cut the bf down before i start.... (Good job! )
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    I was thinking of using the prop so i will see results faster and then let the test e or c for the rest of the cycle.

    would I get better results or the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    ^^ agreed. someone get this guy his own show lol. the dr phil of steroids
    haha tha doc is in the house

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkcay7979 View Post
    I was thinking of using the prop so i will see results faster and then let the test e or c for the rest of the cycle.

    would I get better results or the same?
    Test is Test bro...

    I LOVE Prop though. Best Test IMO.

    Limited sides, especially bloat.

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    thanks War4BTT..

    so start adex a week before the cycle at like .25mg everyother day?

    or

    the same week I start the cycle?

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    It seems to start working within a week or two, so you can start it the day of, or a week before.

    I havent seen anything saying different. Just personal experience.

    btw, call me WAR. Nice to meet you bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vishus View Post
    haha tha doc is in the house
    Haha whats up Vishus?

    You start yet? Remeber i want a cycle Log!

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    It seems to start working within a week or two, so you can start it the day of, or a week before.

    I havent seen anything saying different. Just personal experience.

    btw, call me WAR. Nice to meet you bro!
    thanks WAR.

    What about HCG do yo I need it?

    I think I will do the test prop
    I was doing the sut 250 every other day and it wasnt to bad .

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    Whenever youre using a 19-Nor, i would include hCG .

    500IU's 2xW for the last two weeks of the cycle, and first two of PCT is what i do.

    But honestly, hCG opinions are like assholes, everyone has em'!

    Also, dont forget to alternate injection spots ED when shooting the Prop.

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