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    How much tren to add to cycle?

    Currently in Week 5 on:

    375 Test E wk
    600 Deca Wk

    going to add Tren , getting 20x 75mg whats the best advice here?

    6' / 205 / 7-8% / 28

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    tren + deca = not the best idea

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    Im curious...why?

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    I think your dosages are whacked out...The ratio I'd run Deca at is 0.75mg per 1mg of a longer estered Testosterone like Enanthate or Cypionate . Maybe 1:1 with Prop at bare mimimum.

    Your ratio here is nearly 2.1mg Deca to 1mg Testosterone, which will most likely shut your natural test down fast.

    Add in Trenbolone , and you've got the perfect limp dick / progesterone sides / difficult recovery perfect storm.

    Stick around and please learn some more before running this!!!

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    Im going to cruise on 200mg/wk of test TRT... My natural is already shut down, test will do that.... not worried about recovery just progesterone sides... I have no issues whatsoever yet 3rd cycle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by daem View Post
    I think your dosages are whacked out...The ratio I'd run Deca at is 0.75mg per 1mg of a longer estered Testosterone like Enanthate or Cypionate . Maybe 1:1 with Prop at bare mimimum.

    Your ratio here is nearly 2.1mg Deca to 1mg Testosterone, which will most likely shut your natural test down fast.

    Add in Trenbolone , and you've got the perfect limp dick / progesterone sides / difficult recovery perfect storm.

    Stick around and please learn some more before running this!!!
    you can use that as a rule of thumb, but its not necessary to follow it. one shot of deca will shut down your natural test, thats not the problem with it. even an hrt dose of test will allow for mostly normal functions (like getting it up) so you don't HAVE to run test higher than deca.

    adding tren would give you progesterone nightmares.. not to mention 20x75 is 3 weeks worth? so not enough..

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    Can you explain why the progesterone issues? I thought Tren /Deca stacked for bulking well....

    thanks

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    dude tren . is not the answer. i would do test. cyp. 500 wk and deca 400 wk and that for twelve weeks with arimidex . tren. is strong and not good in my opinion to mix with deca. how many cycles have you done dude??

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyman2345 View Post
    Can you explain why the progesterone issues? I thought Tren /Deca stacked for bulking well....

    thanks

    Gee 2 19-Nors in one cycle?

    Hmm...

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    Tren +Deca is a bad idea. Pick one and stick with it. Tren is my new god.

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    id hold off on the tren .. get more and use it in the next run..

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    3rd cycle... From my reading its not progesterone but prolactin thats the issue with these two that can be suppressed with high B6... I think dostinex handles that as well...

    Anyone else have input? Whats a good tren dose if I wait till the Deca is done?

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    you have yet to say what ester tren , you didn't say how long you intend to run the deca , you didn't say how long you will run test at 375 before stepping down to trt dose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    you have yet to say what ester tren, you didn't say how long you intend to run the deca, you didn't say how long you will run test at 375 before stepping down to trt dose...

    Acetate... Deca I plan on staying on 12 weeks. Keep test at 375 untill any/all cycles are finished then I'll step down to 200.

    Thx

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    Save the tren and get a couple more bottles of it. Use it next cycle. Out of curiosity why are you cruising at age 28? Is that healthy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyman2345 View Post
    Currently in Week 5 on:

    375 Test E wk
    600 Deca Wk

    going to add Tren , getting 20x 75mg whats the best advice here?

    6' / 205 / 7-8% / 28
    i dont like running it with DECA myself.

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    I seem to crash for about 3-6 months after cycle... Sick of it...

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    time on + pct= time off Do that and there should be no crash 3-6 months after cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankdiesel View Post
    Save the tren and get a couple more bottles of it. Use it next cycle. Out of curiosity why are you cruising at age 28? Is that healthy?

    Hummm.... what sort of health problems can you do with cruising ,

    IMHO , cruising is HEALTHY , instead of bringing your body down and up

    hundreds of times , and you can always recover , the testicle is still there,

    its not like the glands are dead . Its the normal feedback .

    I will be starting my cruise and blast next week , cant wait to feel test

    running through me yehhaaa !

    And by the way , i am 23 and will be cruising , but i am doing it because i

    am going into serious competing and its a loooooong way.
    Last edited by SilverTest; 11-20-2008 at 03:57 AM.

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    Sorry, but WTF is cruising?

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    cruise and blast style , its basically cruising between cycles on test only at a specific

    dose , every person choose his own cruising dosage ,for some its 100 mgs per week ,

    others its 200 mg , and for some 500 mg per week which is a hell of a cruise.

    For me its gonna be 250 mg of testoviron test E per week.

    The blast is basically done every 2 or 3 months , high dosages , simply a cycle with

    higher than cruising dosage .

    All this is for serious guys who really need to have that edge all the time , for those

    who want to compete ...etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverTest View Post
    cruise and blast style , its basically cruising between cycles on test only at a specific

    dose , every person choose his own cruising dosage ,for some its 100 mgs per week ,

    others its 200 mg , and for some 500 mg per week which is a hell of a cruise.

    For me its gonna be 250 mg of testoviron test E per week.

    The blast is basically done every 2 or 3 months , high dosages , simply a cycle with

    higher than cruising dosage .

    All this is for serious guys who really need to have that edge all the time , for those

    who want to compete ...etc...
    Ok, thank you. I can definitely see the advantages of that. I'm in week 9 of a Test E and Tren A cycle, and really don't want to come off the Test. It's like being 18 again and I feel great all the time.

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