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11-23-2008, 07:51 PM #1New Member
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Feedback on second cycle
Hello guys, Im a LONG time reader and finally decided to join (last week, just now got my account activated)
I did a Sustanon 375 cycle (3 shots a week) for my first cycle.. ouch.
Anywho, Im looking to start a second cycle in 5 months, some feedback would be greatly appreciated!!
Test E
Deca 200
Nolvadex
Week 1-12:
250mg test e - twice a week (Monday & Thursday to) to equal 500mg a week.
200mg Deca - once a week
PCT:
40/40/20/20 Nolvadex but it will be at hand if needed during the cycle.
Male
24 years old
206 lbs
15%BF
5'8"
THANK YOU!! If anything else you guys need (info) let me know
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11-23-2008, 07:57 PM #2
good, basic cycle bro. my only opinion would be to up the deca to 400mg instead of 200mg...you'll get way better results and more mass. also make sure to stop taking the deca at week 10. ALSO put CLOMID in your PCT along with the nolva: 100/50/50/50....besides that good luck
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11-23-2008, 07:58 PM #3
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11-23-2008, 08:00 PM #4
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^^^ agreed (phate)- if estrogen related sides on cycle id use armidex .25-.5 ed ...with first use of deca to be honest you may have a hard time differentiating estro vs prog sides ...i never use nolva on cycle w/ 19 nor (deca , tren )
id up deca to 400mgs/week
id extend test to 14 weeks
stop deca at 12 weeks
pct should at least include clomid+ nolva or nolva + aromisin or nolva+ proviron + clomid
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11-23-2008, 08:10 PM #6New Member
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thankyou!
thanks as well bro!!
Diet is in check:
On cycle diet:
#1
6 whole eggs
16oz orange juice
2 bananas
4 slices WW toast
1 Scoop whey
#2
2 Scoops whey
#3
6-8oz chicken
greens
4oz(dry) WW pasta or LARGE sweet potato
#4 (Pre-WO)
Same as #3 (but 5oz pasta)
#5(PWO)
2 scoops whey
16oz orange juice
#6
2 cans of tuna
small sweet potato
#7 (BED)
2 scoops syntha-6 w/2 cups skim milk
I also snack on nuts (no pun intended) and take 1g BCAA between every meal
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11-23-2008, 08:12 PM #7
yip with theese changes it will b a gd cycle
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11-23-2008, 08:21 PM #8
1g of bcaa will do nothing, BCAAs are protein, so it's like saying you are taking 1g of protein in between meals, though 10-15 would be good, just got post workout as they will fight with the precursors in the whey protein
how many calories is this diet, it seems more like a cutter than a bulker
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11-23-2008, 08:26 PM #9
test 500mg 12 weeks
deca 400mg 10 weeks
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11-23-2008, 08:27 PM #10
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^^^ phate insulin spike in am not necessarily a bad thing takes body kickstarts into an anabolic state - making sure with carb/pro/ no fat. When taking exogenous insulin for bb purposes most will use in am and pwo. This mimics that but using food to create insulin spike. I shouldnt prob have answered for him but i like the rest of your diet suggestions ..just not opposed to this.
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11-23-2008, 08:27 PM #11New Member
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yes, slow digesting protein
also, ive known to have to spike my insulin in the morning and PWO?
ALSO
I AM A COMPETITIVE BODYBUILDER
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11-23-2008, 08:27 PM #12
i would say test 14weeks deca 12weeks, you have to account for the time it takes to peak in your system
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OK IMO unless you are running NPP or are on a tight budget that makes it impossible deca will yield best results run to 12 weeks...takes quite a long time to build up in system ..longer that any test ...long ester ...very long ..slow in = slow out. I have gotten best results in my experience with 12 weeks. Thats why i suggested 12 over 10. Test should be run 2 weeks past this.
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11-23-2008, 08:38 PM #18
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The guy who initially asked the question re his cycle. Some are suggesting 10 weeks w/ deca ..im sharing my experince @ 12 weeks as being better for me. Thats why i initially suggested extending deca to 12 weeks test to 14 weeks in my first response. Ithink u and i actually posted this at the same time or at least were both in the process at the same time.
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11-23-2008, 08:40 PM #19
probably, i think we're starting to dominate this thread, lol
either way, i completely agree that deca should be run minimum 12 weeks
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11-23-2008, 09:32 PM #20New Member
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thanks a lot guys!!
im deff getting my fat in check in the AM with the insulin spike, and beef up the PCT
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