Best drug to use against gynocomastia during cycle?

I've looked into:

- Nolvadex

Which I find most appealing, it sounds like this drug is less likely to hinder your gains then the other drugs. Due to the reason that it doesnt reduce estrogen. It just blocks estrogen for reaching the breasts. But I did not like the stuff I read about IGF-1 and that using nolvadex can in fact decrease gains.

- Arimidex

Well it sounds good, but I don't like reducing estrogen in general, that could be bad for you gains, so I'm thinking nolvadex more than arimidex.

- Letrozole

This drug just seem like an all out kill. And I would not be using it for other reasons then for extreme cutting (shows).

Letro is the best but dosing has to be kept low to prevent sides. Everyone should atleast have Letro on hand in case. Adex is good to run on cycle and is less potent than Letro. Nolva just shouldnt be ran on cycle.

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Originally Posted by redz

Letro is the best but dosing has to be kept low to prevent sides. Everyone should atleast have Letro on hand in case. Adex is good to run on cycle and is less potent than Letro. Nolva just shouldnt be ran on cycle.

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Thank you for your opinion..

Bump!

do you mean to stop gyno thats there, or to prevent it? big difference.

if its the first, then you're backwards. letro is best, arimidex might stop it but not a good choice, and nolva shouldn't be used unless you have nothing else on hand at the time.

if you're just trying to prevent it arimidex is the best, then letro at a low dose, and lastly nolva, which if its just preventative, it shouldn't be used at all

as prevention id run adex.. if i have symptoms its nolvadex.. nolvadex is the drug of choice hands down.. tried and tested.
i also feel nolvadex has little to no effect on gains.

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Originally Posted by Mulciber

as prevention id run adex.. if i have symptoms its nolvadex.. nolvadex is the drug of choice hands down.. tried and tested.
(100% Agree)

i also feel nolvadex has little to no effect on gains.
(100% DIS-agree)

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:wg:

lol.. i know you do :)

Also note that Nolvadex should not be run on cycle with 19-Nors!

Thought that went without saying... ^^^ But yes, NEVER with a 19-Nor.

Though I think it shouldnt need to be run period. There are situations for it, but if one plans ahead, it shouldnt be needed.

yeah an AI diring the cycle.. but if symptoms still show up id still use nolvadex.
im still not convinced on the nolvadex 19-nor deal... personally have done it many times with no adverse effect.. been done for years then one study comes out and its tabboo..

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Originally Posted by Mulciber

yeah an AI diring the cycle.. but if symptoms still show up id still use nolvadex.
im still not convinced on the nolvadex 19-nor deal... personally have done it many times with no adverse effect.. been done for years then one study comes out and its tabboo..

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Isnt that how it works? :wg:

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Originally Posted by T_Own

do you mean to stop gyno thats there, or to prevent it? big difference.

if its the first, then you're backwards. letro is best, arimidex might stop it but not a good choice, and nolva shouldn't be used unless you have nothing else on hand at the time.

if you're just trying to prevent it arimidex is the best, then letro at a low dose, and lastly nolva, which if its just preventative, it shouldn't be used at all

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Prevent gyno from accuring from the beginning of the cycle!

Thank you for your reply's fellas, helps alot

How much arimidex would you guys use on a 500mg à week of test enanthate, for say 12 weeks?

And where do you start to use higher dosages?

When you use two compounds, like:

- Testo, dbol
- Testo, drol

Or when using more then two compounds?

- Using for example: Testo, dbol, deca
- Using for example: Testo, drol, deca

Thanks a billion ;)

i find that .25mg ed works fine

Or .5mgs EOD.

Find what works best for yourself.

Just because nobody else said it letro does have a pretty bad rebound effect if u didn't know that.

my mate had bitch tit once he took theses tabs called Tamoxafen for 30 days and thay worked great for gyno anti androgens thay were

that would be nolvadex

Tamoxafen tabs are nolvdex?

Tamoxifen is Nolvadex, yes.

cool! what about clymid?
How and when would i have to use that?

What about Clomid (clomiphene citrate)? It's not an on-cycle gyno combatant which is what this thread is/was about. Purely a pct drug.

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Originally Posted by VanTheMan

I've looked into:

- Nolvadex

Which I find most appealing, it sounds like this drug is less likely to hinder your gains then the other drugs. Due to the reason that it doesnt reduce estrogen. It just blocks estrogen for reaching the breasts. But I did not like the stuff I read about IGF-1 and that using nolvadex can in fact decrease gains.

- Arimidex

Well it sounds good, but I don't like reducing estrogen in general, that could be bad for you gains, so I'm thinking nolvadex more than arimidex.

- Letrozole

This drug just seem like an all out kill. And I would not be using it for other reasons then for extreme cutting (shows).

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I like the AI's like LETROZOLE,ARIMIDEX,AROMASIN
I also like the combo of PROVIRON and NOLVADEX.

Good good.
So arimidex throughout cycle
0.25-.50 (whatever you need)
Starting out at 0.25 and see what happens.

What if gyno symptoms occur at 0.25?
Bump it to 0.50?

Add nolva @ 20mg / day until it subsides? what?

letro as needed .25 .5 (ed, eod), If gyno symptoms are not estrogen related, dostinex twice a week .25 .5 or as needed

from my experience , if you got gyno on cycle , i am talking about getting a little hard

lump behind your nipple , not fully blown tits , i think nolvadex would make it go fast

too , i had it once on a cycle on the left side , and it was all gone when i took

20 mg of nolva daily .

Okey, thanks for the tips.
I'm not talking about when it gets like a pee under there, I'm talking about before it gets to that (puffy, water retention, alot of it)

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Originally Posted by VanTheMan

Okey, thanks for the tips.
I'm not talking about when it gets like a pee under there, I'm talking about before it gets to that (puffy, water retention, alot of it)

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yes nolva will take care of that very nicely mate .

for that you can even get away with 10 mg a day , i did that many times.