Test Prop & Tren Acetate (2nd Cycle advise)

[Quicksilva]

First cycle was

Deca 200mg per week for 10 weeks
test enanthate 250mg per week for 12 weeks
dbol 30mg per day for first 6 weeks

Got amazing gains, with alot of water retention.

I'm looking to improve upon those gains but keep as lean as possible. I am looking to run..

Test prop ?mg every other day for 8 weeks
tren acetate ?mg every other day for 8 weeks

I have read all about tren and decided to run it even with the sides... I am looking for advise on dosages or other suggestions for a stack (that includes tren)

I am not prone to gyno and my sides from last cycle were pretty mild.

PCT will include R.O.H.M pct caps 30 days + HCG 0.2ml every other day for 30 days.

Can I expcet the gains to be alot better on this course???

Thanks!

[Bossman]

If you experienced good gains on that cycle I would think you could up the dose a little on test and keep the tren fairly low (at first, you can always increase).
Test Prop 150 mg, EOD
Tren Ace 100 mg, EOD

That will put your test at approx. 525 per week and tren at 350 per week. Not a high dose but considerably more then your last cycle. Since these are fast esthers, you will feel them by the end of the first week. You shouldn't get the amount of bloat you did with your first cycle. Hard to say what gains you will get as there are many variables.

[MercyDog]

stats needed to help with mg. doses

[Maverick_J8]

100mg ED Prop

50mg ED Tren

Mix in same syringe.

[Bossman]

100mg ED Prop

50mg ED Tren

Mix in same syringe.

TOO much prop. He ran 250 a week first cycle and you want him to jump to 700 EW? Tren is reasonable. He wants to shoot EOD which is not as good as ED but will work just fine.

[Quicksilva]

stats needed to help with mg. doses

6 ft
196 pounds
12% body fat

[MercyDog]

6 ft
196 pounds
12% body fat

Keep in mind that prop is stronger than enth mg. to mg. so givin your mass and the results you got last time you may consider 50/50mgs. everyday. You should also be able to easily load this into one pin together. You may also consider cutting just the tren off at 8 weeks and running the prop 12 weeks. If the prop isn't from your kitchen you can pin eod. Depending on the mg./ml should define whether to pin ed or eod givin that you can mix the 2 up to about 2cc's

[MercyDog]

8 weeks is sort of a blasting cycle for test,,,,,,,,so you could go higher if your deadset on 8 weeks.

[jimmyinkedup]

Honestly im not a big fan of tren for second cycle, but thats my opinion. Since u decided to do it id do 350mg/week of tren , 350-500mg/week of prop. 8 weeks is fine as both are fast acting but if you did extend i would defiinately use tren 8 weeks max and make it the last 8 weeks of cycle.
^^^Mercy its funny hearing 8 weeks is considered a blasting cycle as i remember the days when that was considered standard cycle length! You are right though nowadays it is!

[Phate]

i would agree that tren for a second cycle is not the best idea, and from your stats you want to bulk i bet

have you though about test prop/nandrolone phenylpropionate, it's basically a short estered test/deca cycle, less water retention and great mass gains, then your next cycle you can run prop/tren ace to get lean gains and cut down

[Quicksilva]

Hmmm after a while of thinking... What if I run,
150mg of the trenbolone acetate per week split into each other day injections (keeping it low)

And 400mg of Testosterone prop per week taken each other day aswell.

Would i get the effects of the tren wit that dosage and also would it be safe to throw in dianabol for the first 4 weeks of this course (about 50mg per day)?

[Reed]

150mg per week?? Are going to inject 21mg ed or something. Tren needs to be a ed injection. Prop can be eod but since you going to inject ed anyway why not just do the prop as well ed. Helps keep the blood levels more stable which will reduce sides Just drop it if you going on that low of a dose and soooo worried about the sides.

If i was you I'd do

Prop: 75mg ed
Tren: 50mg ed