Results 1 to 27 of 27
  1. #1
    Kal02's Avatar
    Kal02 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    144

    My first cycle (Test Enanthate)

    Hoping to gain 15-20 lbs from first cycle. Is this far fetched?

    Cycle: Test Enan (10 cc vial) for 10 weeks at 300 mgs a week
    PCT Nolva and clomid (4 weeks)

    Weight- 215
    BF- 11%
    1.5 grams protein per day (the odd day it wont happen)
    **** load of carbs a day

    bench press is at 315 right 1rm....is it possible with this cycle to be able to get it up to 330-340? but the big concern is the weight gain..i want to gain atleast 15-20 lbs.

  2. #2
    redz's Avatar
    redz is online now Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    My HOME GYM
    Posts
    13,108
    Doubt you`ll gain 20 lean pounds from 300mg/week that is a low dose also it should be ran for 12 weeks. I say 12 weeks at 500mg/week for better results. Strength gains who knows everyone is different but yes it would be possible.

  3. #3
    PT's Avatar
    PT
    PT is offline DUNAMIS ~ AR-Elite Hall of Famer~
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    12,157
    bump the test up to 500mgs and make sure you get at least 1.5g protein EVERY DAY and at least 4000 calories and you will do it
    source checks- 200 posts and 6 month membership min. entirely within my discretion
    PT is a fictional character and all posts are for entertainment purposes only.




  4. #4
    kaberle_15's Avatar
    kaberle_15 is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    2,176
    How old are you? How long have you been training?

  5. #5
    Kal02's Avatar
    Kal02 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    144
    22 in may been training solid for 3 years. Ive gotten my bench from 230 1 rm to 315 1rm naturally. I squat 465 1rm. My diet is in check. Im doing this to get to atleast 225-230 lbs for football. I got a scholarship to my university but they want me to gain a few more pounds. I run a 4.5 40 yd dash and dont want to slow down too much. Thats why i want to take gear since i wanna keep my speed by gaining only minimal fat. They only test like 2 people on each team and they test at the end of the year and doesnt test enan get outta your body in 3 months after ur done?

  6. #6
    WARMachine's Avatar
    WARMachine is offline Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    R.I.P. TMOS
    Posts
    7,981
    ??? Were you in JC before?

  7. #7
    Kal02's Avatar
    Kal02 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    144
    I play north of the border. For University of British Columbia. I played junior football from 19 till 20...i got a full scholarship for ubc at 21.

  8. #8
    WARMachine's Avatar
    WARMachine is offline Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    R.I.P. TMOS
    Posts
    7,981
    Oh ok gotcha....

    You just seemed a bit old... I actually know a guy whos also a member here who plays at waterloo.

    Anyway, i think that Test E @ 500mgs for 12 weeks is your best bet...

    PCT should look something like this.

    Nolva - 20/20/20/20
    Clomid - 50/50/25/25

  9. #9
    vishus's Avatar
    vishus is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    1,281
    your correct, dettection time for test e is 3 months, just make sure you cycle off soon enough before testing times...good luck

  10. #10
    hankdiesel's Avatar
    hankdiesel is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    blue trunks
    Posts
    3,094
    I believe 10 weeks is plenty. I take the shots for ten weeks and it is in my system still for another two anyways.........just another way to look at it.

  11. #11
    Phate's Avatar
    Phate is offline Got Diet? ~VET~ AR Hall of Famer~
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    texas
    Posts
    10,940
    IMO it would be better to do a cycle of test prop for several reasons

    advantages:
    1) in and out of your system more rapidly(detection time is 2-3 weeks)
    2) cycle is shorter because it peaks(kicks in) sooner
    3) less water retention

    disadvantages
    1) has to be shot ed or eod
    2) can be painful, might hinder practices

    Just my opinion but most athletes are better off using shorter esters

  12. #12
    WARMachine's Avatar
    WARMachine is offline Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    R.I.P. TMOS
    Posts
    7,981
    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    IMO it would be better to do a cycle of test prop for several reasons

    advantages:
    1) in and out of your system more rapidly(detection time is 2-3 weeks)
    2) cycle is shorter because it peaks(kicks in) sooner
    3) less water retention

    disadvantages
    1) has to be shot ed or eod
    2) can be painful, might hinder practices

    Just my opinion but most athletes are better off using shorter esters

    Always go with short esters...

    I would have recommended it to OP myself, but Prop isnt generally new-user friendly.

    Newbs have a hard enough time pinning usually, let alone ED.

  13. #13
    Kal02's Avatar
    Kal02 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    144
    Yeah bro...i think pinning once or twice a week is enough for me lol....im gonna up my intake to 400 mgs a week....bought to vials (10 ml each) at 200 mgs/ml. im gonna start next week....pretty excited!

    Gonnna do 200 monday and 200 thursday for 10 weeks and see how it goes.

  14. #14
    Phate's Avatar
    Phate is offline Got Diet? ~VET~ AR Hall of Famer~
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    texas
    Posts
    10,940
    Quote Originally Posted by kalkat02 View Post
    Yeah bro...i think pinning once or twice a week is enough for me lol....im gonna up my intake to 400 mgs a week....bought to vials (10 ml each) at 200 mgs/ml. im gonna start next week....pretty excited!

    Gonnna do 200 monday and 200 thursday for 10 weeks and see how it goes.
    if you're only going to go 10 weeks i would kick start with dbol or tbol since you will only be at peak blood serum levels for 5-6 weeks on a 10 week cycle, JMO though

  15. #15
    WARMachine's Avatar
    WARMachine is offline Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    R.I.P. TMOS
    Posts
    7,981
    ^^ Agreed...

    Or use for 12 weeks.

  16. #16
    Kal02's Avatar
    Kal02 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    144
    This might be a stupid question but What if I see expected results by say week 8...would i be able to use dbol for my last 2 weeks..or is that just useless....im really only trying to get up to 225-230...that means gaining 10-15 pounds...20 pounds would be awesome but gaining 15 would be perfectly fine.

    so would 400 mgs/week for 10months be sufficient for 15 pounds? if not then ill try the dbol to kickstart.

  17. #17
    Phate's Avatar
    Phate is offline Got Diet? ~VET~ AR Hall of Famer~
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    texas
    Posts
    10,940
    Quote Originally Posted by kalkat02 View Post
    This might be a stupid question but What if I see expected results by say week 8...would i be able to use dbol for my last 2 weeks..or is that just useless....im really only trying to get up to 225-230...that means gaining 10-15 pounds...20 pounds would be awesome but gaining 15 would be perfectly fine.

    so would 400 mgs/week for 10months be sufficient for 15 pounds? if not then ill try the dbol to kickstart.
    hell yeah, test for 10 months should get you 15lbs all right, lol, jp bro

    you could gain 10-15lbs in 10 weeks IF your diet and training are on point and since dbol is only detectable for 6 weeks it would be out of your system before your cycle is over

    so to answer your question, yes you could get the results you want from 10 weeks of test but what you get depends on how focused you are during cycle as far as eating and training are concerned

  18. #18
    Kal02's Avatar
    Kal02 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    144
    hahahaa i didnt even see that....10 months shit dude that would be a sick cycle

  19. #19
    Kal02's Avatar
    Kal02 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    144
    bros thanks for the advice...im gonna be starting next week...ill keep you guys updated

  20. #20
    Phate's Avatar
    Phate is offline Got Diet? ~VET~ AR Hall of Famer~
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    texas
    Posts
    10,940
    Quote Originally Posted by kalkat02 View Post
    hahahaa i didnt even see that....10 months shit dude that would be a sick cycle
    i know people that have done it, but with much higher than 400mg/wk, and you're right, it was a sick cycle, lol

  21. #21
    J.I
    J.I is offline New Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    45
    im on my first cycle of test-e only. almost 9 weeks and im up 17 lbs. Alot of water retention though so who knows how much is real gains. But im def bigger and stronger. I feel comfortable with the 500/mg a week. you should bump it up, but then again im not an expert. no sides at all yet. other than increased sex drive. good luck bro
    Last edited by J.I; 11-25-2008 at 11:25 PM.

  22. #22
    Kal02's Avatar
    Kal02 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    144
    Dude thats awesome!...oh and iforgot to say that im an "easy gainer"...i gain weight pretty easily...i got a bottle of m1t's aswell...anybody think i should take this at a really low dose (10 mgs/day) for the first 2 weeks?...maybe help me gain that 15-pounds?
    Last edited by Kal02; 11-25-2008 at 11:36 PM.

  23. #23
    auslifta's Avatar
    auslifta is offline Retired MONITOR
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    flying from the ashes
    Posts
    3,966
    Quote Originally Posted by kalkat02 View Post
    Hoping to gain 15-20 lbs from first cycle. Is this far fetched?

    Cycle: Test Enan (10 cc vial) for 10 weeks at 300 mgs a week
    PCT Nolva and clomid (4 weeks)

    Weight- 215
    BF- 11%
    1.5 grams protein per day (the odd day it wont happen)
    **** load of carbs a day

    bench press is at 315 right 1rm....is it possible with this cycle to be able to get it up to 330-340? but the big concern is the weight gain..i want to gain atleast 15-20 lbs.
    1.5g protein a day? i hope you meant per pound of your body weight. As stated above try ten weeks at 500mg a week. front loading would be good IMO. followed by good PCT no reason you couldnt gain what your after

  24. #24
    Kal02's Avatar
    Kal02 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    144
    per pound

  25. #25
    Kal02's Avatar
    Kal02 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    144
    im upping it now to 500 mgs/week for 10 weeks.

  26. #26
    Phate's Avatar
    Phate is offline Got Diet? ~VET~ AR Hall of Famer~
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    texas
    Posts
    10,940
    Quote Originally Posted by kalkat02 View Post
    im upping it now to 500 mgs/week for 10 weeks.
    good idea, dbol kickstart or no? just checking for future reference

    btw, depending on your appetite you might want to get some cyanocobalamin(injectable b12) and use it with your cycle, it increases appetite in some people which helps while bulking and gives me a general feeling of energy and well being

    just something to consider

  27. #27
    Kal02's Avatar
    Kal02 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    144
    Im a pretty patient guy...I dont mind waiting 3-5 weeks to see solid gains...and plus less sides w/o dbol .....dont mind the wait.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •