Not feeling my Test...

**DrSauce99** · 11-26-2008, 05:11 PM

I am on week 5.

Started Dbol 50ED

375 Test E - Wk
500 Deca - wk

Thing is I feel (sex drive etc wise) same as off cycle.

Last week I bumped the test to 600, and 2 days ago just did another 600 test.

Thing is I still feel no difference.

Wondering if its due to the Deca or the stuffs no good?

**redz** · 11-26-2008, 05:12 PM

Is it your first cycle? whats your diet like? it takes 4-6 weeks for test e to peak.

**WARMachine** · 11-26-2008, 05:13 PM

If youre just starting week 5 give it time.

If you havent felt the gear kick by the end of week 6, its fake.

**NATE0406** · 11-26-2008, 05:14 PM

have you felt the dbol ?? if not your stuff is bunk. i would give the test a little longer but to be honest doesnt soung good.

**DrSauce99** · 11-26-2008, 05:15 PM

3rd cycle. I know what it feels like. I am feeling weaker in the sex dept than off cycle honestly. Ive run 375 before and I was like an animal. I ran 500 on a cycle and I litearlly couldnt be in a public (non stop erections)

**DrSauce99** · 11-26-2008, 05:16 PM

I felt the dbol Ive put on 14lbs which I gained in weeks 1-2 and leveled off since.

However my strength is still up and good.

Went from benching 225x14 to 275x9 now.

27/205/8%/6'

**WARMachine** · 11-26-2008, 05:16 PM

The lack of sex drive is probably due to the fact that youre running the Deca higher than the Test.

**DrSauce99** · 11-26-2008, 05:18 PM

Thats what I was thinking thats why the last 2 weeks I bumped the test upto 600mg.

Last week I took a testosterone test which I should have the results on next week.

I also tested just before I started cycle so I'd have a baseline. IM thinking on week 4, (after the 600mg week) I should definatly have elevated levels.

**DrSauce99** · 11-26-2008, 05:19 PM

Actually I re-did my math, Ive been at about 450mg/wk not 375.

My other two cycles have been CYP only and EQ and test E

**NATE0406** · 11-26-2008, 05:19 PM

i would just question your test. your fine with running deca higher than test. your sex drive should still be good even if you are just running an hrt dose of test. like everyone said just give it a little more time. but to be honest you need to pick a dosage and stick with it because if your test is legit then your test levels are going to look like a roller coaster bro.

**DrSauce99** · 11-26-2008, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by NATE0406

i would just question your test. your fine with running deca higher than test. your sex drive should still be good even if you are just running an hrt dose of test. like everyone said just give it a little more time. but to be honest you need to pick a dosage and stick with it because if your test is legit then your test levels are going to look like a roller coaster bro.

Thats what I thought as well, however some people are telling me otherwise.

Im trying to understand WHY if I run (for example only)

250mg TEST
500mg DECA why I would have no sex drive compared to just 250mg TEST alone.

Does Deca bind up the test or do something that makes it in effective thus requiring a dose like 750 test and 500 Deca...

Im trying to understand the mechanics behind it.

**DrSauce99** · 11-26-2008, 05:24 PM

FYI all the gear is ASTRO VET

**NATE0406** · 11-26-2008, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by skyman2345

Thats what I thought as well, however some people are telling me otherwise.

Im trying to understand WHY if I run (for example only)

250mg TEST
500mg DECA why I would have no sex drive compared to just 250mg TEST alone.

Does Deca bind up the test or do something that makes it in effective thus requiring a dose like 750 test and 500 Deca...

Im trying to understand the mechanics behind it.

naw bro. your cycle is fine at the doses you are running no need to boost the test that high if you dont want to.

**DrSauce99** · 11-26-2008, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by NATE0406

naw bro. your cycle is fine at the doses you are running no need to boost the test that high if you dont want to.

Have you run a similar cycle? Did you feel good on it? Big sex drive?

Cuz man when I ran 375mg Cyp alone I was an ANIMAL

**LATS60** · 11-26-2008, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by skyman2345

Thats what I thought as well, however some people are telling me otherwise.

Im trying to understand WHY if I run (for example only)

250mg TEST
500mg DECA why I would have no sex drive compared to just 250mg TEST alone.

Does Deca bind up the test or do something that makes it in effective thus requiring a dose like 750 test and 500 Deca...

Im trying to understand the mechanics behind it.

Ok iv'e read the thread and at wk 5 and no rise in libido i'd take bets on your test being bunk.

**DrSauce99** · 11-26-2008, 05:31 PM

So I wonder if my Deca is good too or not... obviously the Dbol was good...

Well see when my Test results come in I guess...

Im still holding same weight ~205, strength still good.

Its all the same brand and from the same guy.

I've finished of an entire 10ml 300mg/ml bottle. BTW.

**calgarian** · 11-27-2008, 08:14 AM

This may help.

Frontloading explained-

**BIG_TRUCK** · 11-28-2008, 02:38 AM

What exactly do you want to feel? Is testosterone supposed to make your testicles burn like you dipped them in acid? You've gained 14lbs and are still holding strength from the dbol . Your also maintaining weight after discontinuing the dbol which means your losing water weight and still gaining LBM.

I would be more concerned about weighing 190lbs @ 6ft tall after 2 cycles and now running 1G+ of gear.

**DrSauce99** · 11-28-2008, 02:40 AM

Went through a long stressful stretch of about 9 months with hardly any eating and no exercise whatsoever.

**BIG_TRUCK** · 11-28-2008, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by skyman2345

Went through a long stressful stretch of about 9 months with hardly any eating and no exercise whatsoever.

Gotcha bro... Set backs really suck, I've had and am having my share.

It's amazing how one can lose his hard earned muscle so fast, and how long it took to gain.

Thank god for muscle memory though.

**marcus300** · 11-28-2008, 03:33 AM

Either your gear is fake or the higher dose deca is causing the problem. By the end of week five your gear will be running at peak blood levels and if you know your body how it feels from previous cycles that should give you a good indictaion how you should feel at this stage. try dropping the deca dose and upping the test dose!

**jimmyinkedup** · 11-28-2008, 03:56 AM

Ive run deca higher than test in my early cycles and didnt have this prob (thank god) but it sounds as if some others have. I wouldnt see a prob as Marcus said dropping deca to 400mgs/week ...meaning in my earlier cycles i ran it @ 400 and did very well ..so i dont think youd be really cutting into gains all that much esp if you do up test...plus if it solves your prob it sounds like it would be worth it. JMO

**inky-e** · 11-28-2008, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

The lack of sex drive is probably due to the fact that youre running the Deca higher than the Test.

I don't think thats the case.....I know many people that do it like that and have no problem...they actually can feel the deca do its job better that way....I personally would go test slightly higher or the same rate as deca...thats just me.

**DSM4Life** · 11-28-2008, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Either your gear is fake or the higher dose deca is causing the problem. By the end of week five your gear will be running at peak blood levels and if you know your body how it feels from previous cycles that should give you a good indictaion how you should feel at this stage. try dropping the deca dose and upping the test dose!

Got my +2

**DrSauce99** · 11-28-2008, 12:30 PM

Ill run 600test/400 deca and see what happens!

**marcus300** · 11-28-2008, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by DrSauce99

Ill run 600test/400 deca and see what happens!

Good idea.

**roid_rage** · 11-28-2008, 02:29 PM

deca has absolutly nothing to do with it, deca can shut your endogenous test production, but since you are using exogenous, you dont need it. May be your gear is fake.

**DrSauce99** · 11-29-2008, 02:31 PM

Thats what Im thinking, or wayyy weak, I feel like Im off cycle, I dont feel completly shut down, but nothing like when I've run just test before at these doses.