Me and Clen

[rangernu]

So I heard much about Clen and wanted to try it out.

I obtained some of Lion's Clen and I started on 12/01/08.

I will not work out or change my diet for the first two weeks because I would like to observe the effects without changes in fuel or workload. I will introduce Taurine when cramps start and only use enough to make them subside.Starting weight is 285lbs.

Day 1 Started with 20mcg at 6:00am. No changes felt or detected this day. BP is 120/70. Core temperature is 98.6F

Day 2 40mcg at 6:00am. My left quad and my right hand are cramping around 3:00pm. Start Taurine dose at 1.5 grams. Cramping subside around 7:00pm. BP is 130/70

Day 3 60mcg at 6:00am. Core temp is 98.9F. Oh wow, tremors start around 9:00am. Both hands are shaking slightly when relaxed but not a problem with fine motor function. Get my BP check at work today. Nurse is confused. BP is 150/70 and pulse is 100. She thinks its that caffiene in my coffee(I drink about a pot/day) but she does not know I drink decaf. Taurine at noon 1.5gm.

Day 4Staying@ 60mcg today per expert advice. Wife commented last night that I felt "hot". The shakes are still present but no worse than yesterday. No cramping so I assume 1.5gm of Taurine is sufficient at this time.

[KatsMeow]

I wouldn't increase the dose tomorrow for sure, don't go overboard with Clen you are obviously getting effects from the 40 and 60 mcgs so stick with that for a few days at least.

[canadian meat]

Your bumping up dose too quickly Gradually up your dose 40mcgs for 3 days 60mcgs for 3 days and so on.

[Bossman]

Exactly. Ramp up every other day. Clen has a 36 hour half life so when you increase the dose, there is still active clen in your system.

You'll find that as time goes on, you will not experience the sides as much as you get used to the clen your receptors are down regulated. How are you going to cycle the clen?

Good job with the Taurine BTW

[canadian meat]

Exactly. Ramp up every other day. Clen has a 36 hour half life so when you increase the dose, there is still active clen in your system.

You'll find that as time goes on, you will not experience the sides as much as you get used to the clen your receptors are down regulated. How are you going to cycle the clen?

Good job with the Taurine BTW

This is what I wanted to say but Im lazy

[Bossman]

You got the ball rolling. I had some down time, so filled in a few blanks.

[MercyDog]

why de-caf?

[luccloud]

Just wondering, I saw the clen on Lion's site are in liquid form, are they for oral consumption or injection with syringes?

[Mulciber]

oral

[T_Own]

why de-caf?

i'm wondering that too.. like maybe a little decaf with dessert or something, but in the morning/day whats wrong with a little caffeine? maybe not a full pot..

[Phate]

i'm wondering that too.. like maybe a little decaf with dessert or something, but in the morning/day whats wrong with a little caffeine? maybe not a full pot..

well he said he was shaking already, maybe he doesn't want to look like a drug addict needing a fix from the combined caffeine and clen

[T_Own]

yeah i can understand it with the clen, but by the sounds of it the decaf is a normal thing

[luccloud]

oral

Thanks,

[rangernu]

I thank you all for your input and advice. I am certainly going to follow the ramp up advice. On the decaf...man..I love coffee! I would drink it all day if it were possible. But the caffiene raises my BP. I tested it over and over. Decaf BP goes down, caffiene BP rises again. I finally accepted it so straight decaf now.

[rangernu]

Exactly. Ramp up every other day. Clen has a 36 hour half life so when you increase the dose, there is still active clen in your system.

You'll find that as time goes on, you will not experience the sides as much as you get used to the clen your receptors are down regulated. How are you going to cycle the clen?

Good job with the Taurine BTW

I plan on running it for 8 weeks and then start to taper off. Do you think I should start the benadryl at 3 weeks or should I use my body temp to make the decision?

[T_Own]

even with benadryl i don't think you'll make it nearly 8 weeks in a row

[rangernu]

even with benadryl i don't think you'll make it nearly 8 weeks in a row

So, in your opinion what would be more realistic?

[ghettoboyd]

even with benadryl i don't think you'll make it nearly 8 weeks in a row

i respectfully dissagree.i used clen for 16 weeks straight using the benedryl protocol.i got good results and never experianced any sides but the shakes. BP was normal,never got any cramps and monitored my temp on a daily basis to check for effectivness.so depending on the individual it can be run longer than 8 weeks.i would however exercise and eat a clean diet to maximize your cycle.i couldent stand not exercising with the energy boost clen provides.good luck bro.