Looking into my second cycle

[AcePowerZ]

5'11
215lbs
15%BF dropping to at least 13 before cycle
lifting since 15
25yo
cycle history: 1st cycle 10wk's Test Enth @500mg wk

I am looking into starting my second cycle. I treated my first cycle as a cutting cycle and it went well I must say. I want to try another cutting cycle and add a couple of more compounds to this cycle. I was looking into

Test prop 100mg EOD 10wk's
Primobolan or tren fina / primo 200mg wk/ tren fina 30mg EOD weeks 5-9
Winstrol 5mg tabs 50mg EOD wks' 1-4 and wk's 9-12
maybee add clen and or t-3 at the end here also

Another Cycle i was thinking about was

Tren/winstrol only cycle for 8-12 wks


Last but not least thinking a short 6-8 wk cutter with
test prop 100mg EOD wks 1-6-8
primobolan 200mg wk 1-6-8
winstrol 25mg EOD wk's 4-6-8

PCT in these cycles will include
Arimidex 1mg or .5
Clomid 100/50/50/25
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
HCG not sure?
should i use proviron?

I am not sure if any of these are good standings for a second cycle. A little help would be nice. I haven t bought anything yet but I can get my hands on just about anything.

Im looking to to at least 2 compounds if not 3 maybee 4 if needed.

Old pic in the avy ive lost big time since then. Im working on new pics as soon as the cpu gets fixed ill post them.

[Big]

Im working on new pics as soon as the cpu gets fixed ill post them.

how are you posting without a cpu?

[Mulciber]

off the top id ditch the tren and winny idea..

maybe test and winny

[T_Own]

those are some ugly cycles.. first of all, if you cut with your first cycle what were your stats before? 15% doesn't seem like much of a cutter. i don't see why you keep wanting to cut when you could just do a nice bulker.

second, you pick all short esters but then don't use them ed. winstrol eod? no way.. especially since you have the tablets thats just a bad idea.

a tren winstrol cycle? i hope you don't have a gf.

you don't need 3 or 4 compounds, you need 2 tops and use them correctly. i would go for a nice clean bulk, prop npp 50-75mg ed. or if you really want to use tren, prop and tren a 50-75mg ed

[AcePowerZ]

I am at a friends house.

[AcePowerZ]

I was high BF around 20% or more and 230+lbs. That First Cycle was a dramatic change. I stayed on low cal low carb diet fell off some days but mostly held. Lost 20+lbs. and Feel a hell of alot better.

I was concidering doing a bulk with
Dbol 50mg tabs so 50mg day wk1-4
test prop 75mg day wk's1-12
tren ace 30mg day wk's 1-10

I see you say 50-75 mg day is that a little high for first time user of tren?
and should i run tren wk 1-12 or run it shorter than the full cycle?

[Big]

I am at a friends house.

That's weird, you and him have the same ip.

[Big]

why not a nice test/deca cycle? that's what I usually recommend for a second cycle.

[Mulciber]

That's weird, you and him have the same ip.

ahhhh son... yuz dun been busted... lol

id avoid tren at this point i think .. little soon imo but thats your call
still think just test with a little winny at the end would be fine if anything..

[T_Own]

I was high BF around 20% or more and 230+lbs. That First Cycle was a dramatic change. I stayed on low cal low carb diet fell off some days but mostly held. Lost 20+lbs. and Feel a hell of alot better.

I was concidering doing a bulk with
Dbol 50mg tabs so 50mg day wk1-4
test prop 75mg day wk's1-12
tren ace 30mg day wk's 1-10

I see you say 50-75 mg day is that a little high for first time user of tren?
and should i run tren wk 1-12 or run it shorter than the full cycle?

50mg ed = 350 a week. you can't get much lower than that..

i don't see why you couldn't have just dieted down the bf instead of cycling while you did it. i really don't think the test did much at all.

ahh big, creepin on it with the ip's

[AcePowerZ]

yes thats what i was just about to post if i did do a bulker i hear deca was good/ but yes my cpu is broke i am on another cpu in the house same isp and all just not able to post nothing from this cpu seeings how it isnt mine.

I think that I will more then likely go with Test/deca I was considering all of my options.


what should i run the deca at 200,300,400?
Thanks for the help as always.

[Big]

yes thats what i was just about to post if i did do a bulker i hear deca was good/ but yes my cpu is broke i am on another cpu in the house same isp and all just not able to post nothing from this cpu seeings how it isnt mine.

I think that I will more then likely go with Test/deca I was considering all of my options.


what should i run the deca at 200,300,400?
Thanks for the help as always.

I'd start the deca at 400mg/week

[AcePowerZ]

and also even if i ran test/deca deca can also be used as a cutter correct?

[Big]

and also even if i ran test/deca deca can also be used as a cutter correct?

really you can cut with any compound if your diet is right, even something that makes you retain water won't prevent you from cutting, the water weight will leave after the cycle.