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    First Cycle Suggestions

    i currently have no HCG so im looking at doing a 4 week cycle with 4 week pct
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    primo teston 250 x 12 set 1 mill syringes at 250mg per mill
    deca 50 x 3 10mill bottles 50mg per mill
    sus 250 x 3 1mill viles 250mg per mill
    prop test x 2 10mill bottles 100mg per mill
    clomid x 5 boxes of 500mg tabs

    looking for suggestions on what a good cycle would be to start off on thanks

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    Welcome.
    I wouldn't run a 4 week cycle of anything. What would no hcg have to do with making it a 4 week cycle?
    age?
    height?
    weight?
    body fat%?
    years training?
    cycle history?

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    4 weeks dont bother..

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    lmao...and again im beat to the punch

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    you have quite a random assortment of stuff too..

    unless you're pretty knowledgeable, a short cycle won't do much at all. most of that seems like long estered stuff too so that even further defeats it.

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    age 20
    height 5,11
    weight 91 kilos
    body fat 12%
    ive been training for 3 years solid
    this would be my first cycle
    i said 4 weeks cause ive heard with no hcg my natural test will shut down going any longer without PCT
    if im wrong please inform me i want to do everything as safe as possible

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    hcg won't really help when you're shut down like that, especially if the next thing you do is inject more steroids . people can live with being shut down, thats what pct is for.

    but at 20, most people would say you should wait

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    your gonna be shut down..why wouldnt you run pct.

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    im gonna do a pct my question is how long can i cycle with no hcg or can i just do a 8 week cycle with no hcg and 4 week pct and my natural test will come back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulciber View Post
    your gonna be shut down..why wouldnt you run pct.
    he's talking about after only 4 weeks..

    the whole point of a pct is to bring back natural levels once you're shut down. if you're on for 6 weeks or 20 weeks, a good pct should still bring your levels back to normal. hcg isn't the most important part of pct

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    unless there are signs of testicular atrophy, of if you know you are prone to it, I wouldn't even use HCG .

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    thank you that cleared things up well can you suggest what a good cycle would be with what i got i can get dbol aswell and how long would i want go for the first time ?

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    what is your propsed pct? Test only with your first cycle. Don't complicate it. You will hear that from everyone.

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    well test + dbol isn't uncommon either

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    well 500mg of clomid a week for 4 weeks after finishing my cycle and novadex ? ive read a few of the PCT posts on the forum still reading up a bit more

    you talking about test prop or primo ive been told primo may be to harsh for first cycle would that be correct ?

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    primo,harsh?
    keep reading up on pct protocols..

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadroth View Post
    well 500mg of clomid a week for 4 weeks after finishing my cycle and novadex ? ive read a few of the PCT posts on the forum still reading up a bit more

    you talking about test prop or primo ive been told primo may be to harsh for first cycle would that be correct ?
    500mg clomid???????

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