First Cycle Suggestions

[deadroth]

i currently have no HCG so im looking at doing a 4 week cycle with 4 week pct
ive got
primo teston 250 x 12 set 1 mill syringes at 250mg per mill
deca 50 x 3 10mill bottles 50mg per mill
sus 250 x 3 1mill viles 250mg per mill
prop test x 2 10mill bottles 100mg per mill
clomid x 5 boxes of 500mg tabs

looking for suggestions on what a good cycle would be to start off on thanks

[Big]

Welcome.
I wouldn't run a 4 week cycle of anything. What would no hcg have to do with making it a 4 week cycle?
age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?
cycle history?

[Mulciber]

4 weeks dont bother..

[Mulciber]

lmao...and again im beat to the punch

[T_Own]

you have quite a random assortment of stuff too..

unless you're pretty knowledgeable, a short cycle won't do much at all. most of that seems like long estered stuff too so that even further defeats it.

[deadroth]

age 20
height 5,11
weight 91 kilos
body fat 12%
ive been training for 3 years solid
this would be my first cycle
i said 4 weeks cause ive heard with no hcg my natural test will shut down going any longer without PCT
if im wrong please inform me i want to do everything as safe as possible

[T_Own]

hcg won't really help when you're shut down like that, especially if the next thing you do is inject more steroids. people can live with being shut down, thats what pct is for.

but at 20, most people would say you should wait

[Mulciber]

your gonna be shut down..why wouldnt you run pct.

[deadroth]

im gonna do a pct my question is how long can i cycle with no hcg or can i just do a 8 week cycle with no hcg and 4 week pct and my natural test will come back?

[T_Own]

your gonna be shut down..why wouldnt you run pct.

he's talking about after only 4 weeks..

the whole point of a pct is to bring back natural levels once you're shut down. if you're on for 6 weeks or 20 weeks, a good pct should still bring your levels back to normal. hcg isn't the most important part of pct

[Big]

unless there are signs of testicular atrophy, of if you know you are prone to it, I wouldn't even use HCG.

[deadroth]

thank you that cleared things up well can you suggest what a good cycle would be with what i got i can get dbol aswell and how long would i want go for the first time ?

[hankdiesel]

what is your propsed pct? Test only with your first cycle. Don't complicate it. You will hear that from everyone.

[T_Own]

well test + dbol isn't uncommon either

[deadroth]

well 500mg of clomid a week for 4 weeks after finishing my cycle and novadex ? ive read a few of the PCT posts on the forum still reading up a bit more

you talking about test prop or primo ive been told primo may be to harsh for first cycle would that be correct ?

[Mulciber]

primo,harsh?
keep reading up on pct protocols..

[T_Own]

well 500mg of clomid a week for 4 weeks after finishing my cycle and novadex ? ive read a few of the PCT posts on the forum still reading up a bit more

you talking about test prop or primo ive been told primo may be to harsh for first cycle would that be correct ?

500mg clomid???????

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