First Cycle Suggestions

[deadroth]

i currently have no HCG so im looking at doing a 4 week cycle with 4 week pct
ive got
primo teston 250 x 12 set 1 mill syringes at 250mg per mill
deca 50 x 3 10mill bottles 50mg per mill
sus 250 x 3 1mill viles 250mg per mill
prop test x 2 10mill bottles 100mg per mill
clomid x 5 boxes of 500mg tabs

looking for suggestions on what a good cycle would be to start off on thanks

[Big]

Welcome.
I wouldn't run a 4 week cycle of anything. What would no hcg have to do with making it a 4 week cycle?
age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?
cycle history?

[Mulciber]

4 weeks dont bother..

[Mulciber]

lmao...and again im beat to the punch

[T_Own]

you have quite a random assortment of stuff too..

unless you're pretty knowledgeable, a short cycle won't do much at all. most of that seems like long estered stuff too so that even further defeats it.

[deadroth]

age 20
height 5,11
weight 91 kilos
body fat 12%
ive been training for 3 years solid
this would be my first cycle
i said 4 weeks cause ive heard with no hcg my natural test will shut down going any longer without PCT
if im wrong please inform me i want to do everything as safe as possible

[T_Own]

hcg won't really help when you're shut down like that, especially if the next thing you do is inject more steroids . people can live with being shut down, thats what pct is for.

but at 20, most people would say you should wait

[Mulciber]

your gonna be shut down..why wouldnt you run pct.

[deadroth]

im gonna do a pct my question is how long can i cycle with no hcg or can i just do a 8 week cycle with no hcg and 4 week pct and my natural test will come back?

[T_Own]

your gonna be shut down..why wouldnt you run pct.

he's talking about after only 4 weeks..

the whole point of a pct is to bring back natural levels once you're shut down. if you're on for 6 weeks or 20 weeks, a good pct should still bring your levels back to normal. hcg isn't the most important part of pct

[Big]

unless there are signs of testicular atrophy, of if you know you are prone to it, I wouldn't even use HCG .

[deadroth]

thank you that cleared things up well can you suggest what a good cycle would be with what i got i can get dbol aswell and how long would i want go for the first time ?

[hankdiesel]

what is your propsed pct? Test only with your first cycle. Don't complicate it. You will hear that from everyone.

[T_Own]

well test + dbol isn't uncommon either

[deadroth]

well 500mg of clomid a week for 4 weeks after finishing my cycle and novadex ? ive read a few of the PCT posts on the forum still reading up a bit more

you talking about test prop or primo ive been told primo may be to harsh for first cycle would that be correct ?

[Mulciber]

primo,harsh?
keep reading up on pct protocols..

[T_Own]

well 500mg of clomid a week for 4 weeks after finishing my cycle and novadex ? ive read a few of the PCT posts on the forum still reading up a bit more

you talking about test prop or primo ive been told primo may be to harsh for first cycle would that be correct ?

500mg clomid???????

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