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for someone who is cutting down to 13 - 15% bf before i start my cycle would you suggest dbol or deca to front load for the first 4 weeks before the test e kicks in?
a few people have said i might bloat up with the dbol from my higher bf so would i be better off with deca or would dbol be fine?
what should i expect to be different from deca and dbol?
Dbol, you can't kickstart with deca. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Rugbyboy8
lol well that answer's that - what else can i front load with?
you want to cut down to 13-15%? or are you there currently and hoping to cut further?dbol is generally not a cutting steroid, nor are most oral minus var and winstrol. if your bodyfat is high you should just work on your diet until you're at 13% or so.
deca has a super long ester, not to be used as a kickstart
dont know if he knows the difference between a frontload and kick
Sorry m8 but a bit of research would be a good start :chairshotQuote:
Originally Posted by Rugbyboy8
Frontloading: injecting extra of the long ester/s at front of cycle to build levels quickly.
Kickstarting: short ester or oral at beginning while waiting for long ester/s to build up.
So you see, deca is not used for kickstarting. As Lats said.
not doing the cycle yet - am currently researching, dieting/cutting until i hit 13% as a target for the cycle
The questions are all part of the research that is going at the moment.
i don't want to do the cycle for cutting i just don't want to balloon up bf wise if that is what dbol will do!
at the moment i am looking at below:
1 - 12 500mgs test e
1 - 4 - 25mg dbol
.25mg adex
but was wondering if there was a better oral to kick start then dbol if i didn't want to bloat up?
Dbol is alright as a kickstart but you will mostly gain water m8. You could also use test prop but if this is going to be your first cycle then dbol would be fine for 4 weeks. Some people dont like to do prop in a first cycle because you will have to pin ed or eod and you will be pretty sore with those virgin muscles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugbyboy8
Theirs always Tbol as a kickstart aswell.
so when you say i will mostly gain water - do you mean that the bloating etc.. will be water and i will still gain lean muscle mass or i will just gain water for the 4 weeks and then lose it all when i come off for just the test e?
sorry if thats a bit of a dumb qus but just want to get all the facts straight in my mind
lol Like I said, it will be mostly water weight and not all muscle, but it will give you that extra bit of strength up until the test kicks in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugbyboy8
I dont personally like dbol anymore but thats just my opinion.